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Started by FOTD, July 09, 2009, 08:42:45 PM

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Conan71

"The Family" Bwaaahhhaahhhha!

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

Little hot outside for that CoCo puff....

The "family" photo!


FOTD

Rachel Maddow: GOP Sex Scandal Exposes Secretive Conservative Religious Group -- 'The Family'

http://www.alternet.org/politics/141278/rachel_maddow:_gop_sex_scandal_exposes_secretive_conservative_religious__group_--__'the_family'/

Sen. John Ensign's affair has brought unwanted attention on a powerful religious network in Washington.



This stuff just drips with what's wrong with a country moving away from what adverse religious founders intended.

Bet there's no minority representation in this "family".


FOTD


Jesus plus nothing:
Undercover among America's secret theocrats

By Jeffrey Sharlet

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525

"Ivanwald, which sits at the end of Twenty-fourth Street North in Arlington, Virginia, is known only to its residents and to the members and friends of the organization that sponsors it, a group of believers who refer to themselves as "the Family." The Family is, in its own words, an "invisible" association, though its membership has always consisted mostly of public men. Senators Don Nickles (R., Okla.), Charles Grassley (R., Iowa), Pete Domenici (R., N.Mex.), John Ensign (R., Nev.), James Inhofe (R., Okla.), Bill Nelson (D., Fla.), and Conrad Burns (R., Mont.) are referred to as "members," as are Representatives Jim DeMint (R., S.C.), Frank Wolf (R., Va.), Joseph Pitts (R., Pa.), Zach Wamp (R., Tenn.), and Bart Stupak (D., Mich.). Regular prayer groups have met in the Pentagon and at the Department of Defense, and the Family has traditionally fostered strong ties with businessmen in the oil and aerospace industries. The Family maintains a closely guarded database of its associates, but it issues no cards, collects no official dues. Members are asked not to speak about the group or its activities."

"During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa's postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise. "We work with power where we can," the Family's leader, Doug Coe, says, "build new power where we can't."

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
—Matthew 10:36

waterboy

Has there been any other media coverage of these revelations? I haven't seen or heard anything except on Maddow which makes me think it is too hot to handle for them. It could be constructed by critics as a Christian vs Jewish battle. Thats no win for them.

I for one am sick of seeing republicans and conservatives all over the (liberal biased?) media criticizing anything Obama does,  spouting their failed philosophies and pimping for their lowest quality players.

They lost didn't they?

guido911

Quote from: waterboy on July 15, 2009, 07:16:23 AM
Has there been any other media coverage of these revelations? I haven't seen or heard anything except on Maddow which makes me think it is too hot to handle for them. It could be constructed by critics as a Christian vs Jewish battle. Thats no win for them.

I for one am sick of seeing republicans and conservatives all over the (liberal biased?) media criticizing anything Obama does,  spouting their failed philosophies and pimping for their lowest quality players.

They lost didn't they?

Yeah repubs, sthu. It's not as if dems/libs were mouthing off at Bush when he was president.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Hoss

Quote from: guido911 on July 15, 2009, 07:50:44 AM
Yeah repubs, sthu. It's not as if dems/libs were mouthing off at Bush when he was president.

Didn't do it to the same extent though when he was just 6 months into his presidency, if I recall.  Your argument=FAIL.

Conan71

Quote from: waterboy on July 15, 2009, 07:16:23 AM
Has there been any other media coverage of these revelations? I haven't seen or heard anything except on Maddow which makes me think it is too hot to handle for them.

No, it sounds like a tinfoil hat muck-raking conspiracy by Maddow.  The MSM generally avoids moonbat stuff.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

tim huntzinger

Quote from: Conan71 on July 15, 2009, 08:59:27 AM
No, it sounds like a tinfoil hat muck-raking conspiracy by Maddow.  The MSM generally avoids moonbat stuff.

Yeah. The Atlantic is like wayyyyyyy out there. http://thecurrent.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/clinton-fellowship.php

Harpers? Weeeiiiiird. http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525

LA Times? GIVE ME A BREAK. Space aliens! http://www.toobeautiful.org/lat_020927.html

Wooooo oooooooo! Scooby Doo theme please!




FOTD

#24
The Third Rachel Maddow Report (July 15th) on the C Street "Mafia" Cabal of Fundamentalist Senators and Congressmen who subscribe to an Ubermensch Theory that they are chosen by God to be leaders and are only responsible to each other, because the masses are weak and not divinely selected.

Holy Moley! http://hoffmania.com/2009/07/c-street-no-longer-a-secret.html

Rachel just bent Steve Largent over! Accusing Largent of double standards, nothing new there, she cited this ( http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090714_16_A1_WASHIN134624&archive=yes )  interview and furthered the painting of a picture of a political cult losing their grip on power. "Asked whether he thought Ensign and Sanford should resign, Largent described that concern as secondary. " It was not secondary under Bill Clinton when Largent represented us as he asked for the then President's resignation.

This story has become bigger than Ensign's and Stanford's indiscretion. The devil seems to be at work. Hallelujah!

Oklahoma politicians are the joke of our country. Are you proud? Do you know those that think this helps to recruit businesses to our city? Are you their sheep?

FOTD

Coburn covers again...gotta hand it to these angry reps. They do know how to cya.


Coburn: Sorry about the protesters
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20090715/pl_ynews/ynews_pl697

Wed Jul 15, 11:27 am ET

It's rare to see a senator apologize for the actions of people on their own side. But we saw Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., a strong anti-abortion advocate do just that this morning.
An obstetrician and a conservative, Coburn grilled Sonia Sotomayor on abortion law. But before he got into that, he first issued an apology to her and rebuked the anti-abortion protesters that interrupted the first two days of the confirmation hearing.

"I apologize to you for the outburst that occurred in this committee. Anybody who values life like I do and is pro-life recognizes that the way you change minds is not yell at people, is you love them," Coburn said. "And you care about their concerns and you create a level of understanding, not condemnation. And so, for that, I apologize."

Five anti-abortion protesters interrupted the hearing shouting slogans in the first two days.

-Jesse J. Holland, AP reporter, Supreme Court

tim huntzinger

Quote from: FOTD on July 16, 2009, 12:05:16 PM
Coburn covers again...gotta hand it to these angry reps. They do know how to cya.


Coburn: Sorry about the protesters
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20090715/pl_ynews/ynews_pl697

Wed Jul 15, 11:27 am ET

It's rare to see a senator apologize for the actions of people on their own side. But we saw Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., a strong anti-abortion advocate do just that this morning.
An obstetrician and a conservative, Coburn grilled Sonia Sotomayor on abortion law. But before he got into that, he first issued an apology to her and rebuked the anti-abortion protesters that interrupted the first two days of the confirmation hearing.

"I apologize to you for the outburst that occurred in this committee. Anybody who values life like I do and is pro-life recognizes that the way you change minds is not yell at people, is you love them," Coburn said. "And you care about their concerns and you create a level of understanding, not condemnation. And so, for that, I apologize."

Five anti-abortion protesters interrupted the hearing shouting slogans in the first two days.

-Jesse J. Holland, AP reporter, Supreme Court


Good for the protesters!  Hey, Dr. Tom, enough with your duplicity and mealy-mouthed 'apologies.'  You are a criminal who aided a filthy adulterer in his sinful ways and now are using the flimsiest of excuses to try and weasel your way out.  I hope you go to jail, sir.  To jail with you!  If Dr. Tom were around when Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ went ballistic at the money changers, ol' Dr. Tom would be groveling after the merchants, looking for loose change.  To jail!!

cannon_fodder

I wish Jesus would have explained more clearly when you should turn the other cheek and act kindly and when you should be hateful and vindictive.   From what I remember in that book it was about 30 years of kindness and about 10 minutes of vindictive behavior.   Oh well, just details.
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I crush grooves.

FOTD

This has little to  do with Jesus and plenty to do with deceiving voters into believing their candidate is superior because of his family and faith. Tom Coburn proved himself to be a racist or an idiot this week....perhaps both.
He showed poor taste in the Sotomayor hearings. He's pathetic.


So many Republican hypocrites, so little time.

Conan71

And your buddy Frankensenator sure made himself look all academic and Senatorial by sticking a finger in the eye of a serious hearing by quizzing a SCOTUS appointee about Perry bucking Mason.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan