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The Palinizing of Frank Ricci

Started by guido911, July 11, 2009, 12:17:40 PM

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guido911

Time to go after the lead plaintiff in the Connecticut firefighters case in which Sotomayor got reversed:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/71660.html
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

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Quote from: guido911 on July 11, 2009, 12:17:40 PM
Time to go after the lead plaintiff in the Connecticut firefighters case in which Sotomayor got reversed:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/71660.html

joiei

#2
Hi Guido,   I know your a lawyer and I am not but what about the reversals the Supreme Court decided on on Judge Alito?   What makes them different than the recent Sotomayor reversal when the judges created law instead of just interperting the law?  Please don't go all ballistic, I am really interested in learning something here.  pm me if you would prefer  [url]http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/27/sotomayor//url]
Quote* In a well-known 1991 case, Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, Alito wrote a sole dissent supporting a state requirement that women inform their husbands before being permitted to obtain an abortion; the Supreme Court later rejected his view.

* In 2000, Alito ruled that Congress could not penalize state governments for failing to comply with the Family and Medical Leave Act; in 2003, the Supreme Court, by a 6-3 vote (including Chief Judge Rehnquist) rejected that conclusion, and ruled that states could be penalized.
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guido911

#3
Quote from: joiei on July 11, 2009, 05:09:43 PM
Hi Guido,   I know your a lawyer and I am not but what about the reversals the Supreme Court decided on on Judge Alito?   What makes them different than the recent Sotomayor reversal when the judges created law instead of just interperting the law?  Please don't go all ballistic, I am really interested in learning something here.  pm me if you would prefer  [url]http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/27/sotomayor//url]

I'm not going to attack you on this. Come on. The only point I was making was the politics of personal destruction appear to be focusing on the lead plaintiff who is planning on testifying at the Sotomayor hearing (don't ask me what he could say that could in any way be relevant to the vetting process, except to embarass the her which is just dumb). As for appointees such as Alito that were reversed by the supremes, I got nothing on it.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

joiei

THanks for your reply, I appreciate it. 
It's hard being a Diamond in a rhinestone world.

waterboy

The only difference I can see Guido, is that Palin inserted herself into controversy by becoming a celebrity politician where personal attacks are common place. The plumber guy did the same thing. They invited the adulation which is always balanced off with intrusion into their personal life. I don't blame her for not wanting to endure all of that but it comes with the job.

Calling it Palinazation then seems nothing more than an effort to excuse her for what all politicians have endured forever. You could call it Clintonizing too. Nixon suffered it, Carter suffered it, the Bushes suffered it. The firefighters were fighting a legal battle so unless they make it political they shouldn't have to deal with all that.

Media is at an all time low in my view. There have been worse cases of persecution in our press but never with the power of the internet.

guido911

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Quote from: waterboy on July 12, 2009, 09:45:51 AM
The only difference I can see Guido, is that Palin inserted herself into controversy by becoming a celebrity politician where personal attacks are common place. The plumber guy did the same thing. They invited the adulation which is always balanced off with intrusion into their personal life. I don't blame her for not wanting to endure all of that but it comes with the job.

Calling it Palinazation then seems nothing more than an effort to excuse her for what all politicians have endured forever. You could call it Clintonizing too. Nixon suffered it, Carter suffered it, the Bushes suffered it. The firefighters were fighting a legal battle so unless they make it political they shouldn't have to deal with all that.

Media is at an all time low in my view. There have been worse cases of persecution in our press but never with the power of the internet.

The media is conceding it took sides against Palin:

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/08/sarah-barracuda-palin-and-the-piranhas-of-the-press/

As for Palin essentially "asking for" the treatment she received; are you serious? Tanning beds, BS ethics complaints, Trig not her son/faked pregnancy, daughter knocked up by A-Rod, slutty flight attendant look, other people's heads photo-shopped on Trig's body, she had an affair, her private e-mail hacked, son joined the military as means to run away from something, Trig was a "cheap prop" during the campaign, she's a bad parent because she refuses to stay at home with the kids...Oh, and did you hear Palin might have had something to do with MJ's death:

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2009/07/sharpton-caller-links-sarah-palin.html

Attack Palin as being inexperienced on the issues or that you disagree with her positions is fine. All the above crap is exactly that: crap. But please feel free to defend it Waterboy.

As for Clinton, when you shove a cigar up some legal intern or get a hummer in the oval office from said intern and then wag your finger at the American people with righteous indignation, you kinda deserve an attack. Nixon, again, are you serious?

Finally, where are these sorts of articles about Palin:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/205961

Gee, Obama is a better pope to American Catholics that the Pope is.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

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rwarn17588

The latest tag on her is "the Alaskan quit bull."

Conan71

Quote from: rwarn17588 on July 12, 2009, 12:45:59 PM
The latest tag on her is "the Alaskan quit bull."

I don't care who you are, that's hillarious.

The FAIL bloggers are having fun with her







"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

waterboy

Unconvinced Guido. Everyone thinks their ox is getting gored worse than everyone elses in politics. Cannon does not represent all the press and frankly, I don't think he carries that much weight. Believing that she got treated any worse than other politicians seeking higher office is unsubstantiated and really just poor defense for her actions. The Clintons were being attacked and called murderers even before Monica. How's that for unfair?

She's a comic book character and its time to move on. Palinazation won't last any longer than "getting Borked" did.


we vs us

"Palinizing" makes it sound like what happened to her is somehow unique in politics or entertainment.  It's neither. 

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This is really what it is all about with Sarah Palin's advocates. ENJOY!

OP-ED COLUMNIST
She Broke the G.O.P. and Now She Owns It

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/opinion/12rich.html?th&emc=th


By FRANK RICH
Published: July 11, 2009



SARAH PALIN and Al Sharpton don't ordinarily have much in common, but they achieved a rare harmonic convergence at Michael Jackson's memorial service. When Sharpton told the singer's children it was their daddy's adversaries, not their daddy, who were "strange," he was channeling the pugnacious argument the Alaska governor had made the week before. There was nothing strange about her decision to quit in midterm, Palin told America. What's strange — or "insane," in her lingo — are the critics who dare question her erratic behavior on the national stage.


Sharpton's bashing of Jackson's naysayers received the biggest ovation of the entire show. Palin's combative resignation soliloquy, though much mocked by prognosticators of all political persuasions, has an equally vociferous and more powerful constituency. In the aftermath of her decision to drop out and cash in, Palin's standing in the G.O.P. actually rose in the USA Today/Gallup poll. No less than 71 percent of Republicans said they would vote for her for president. That overwhelming majority isn't just the "base" of the Republican Party that liberals and conservatives alike tend to ghettoize as a rump backwater minority. It is the party, or pretty much what remains of it in the Barack Obama era.

That's why Palin won't go gently into the good night, much as some Republicans in Washington might wish. She is not just the party's biggest star and most charismatic television performer; she is its only star and charismatic performer. Most important, she stands for a genuine movement: a dwindling white nonurban America that is aflame with grievances and awash in self-pity as the country hurtles into the 21st century and leaves it behind. Palin gives this movement a major party brand and political plausibility that its open-throated media auxiliary, exemplified by Glenn Beck, cannot. She loves the spotlight, can raise millions of dollars and has no discernible reason to go fishing now except for self-promotional photo ops.

The essence of Palinism is emotional, not ideological. Yes, she is of the religious right, even if she winks literally and figuratively at her own daughter's flagrant disregard of abstinence and marriage. But family-values politics, now more devalued than the dollar by the philandering of ostentatiously Christian Republican politicians, can only take her so far. The real wave she's riding is a loud, resonant surge of resentment and victimization that's larger than issues like abortion and gay civil rights.

That resentment is in part about race, of course. When Palin referred to Alaska as "a microcosm of America" during the 2008 campaign, it was in defiance of the statistical reality that her state's tiny black and Hispanic populations are unrepresentative of her nation. She stood for the "real America," she insisted, and the identity of the unreal America didn't have to be stated explicitly for audiences to catch her drift. Her convention speech's signature line was a deftly coded putdown of her presumably shiftless big-city opponent: "I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities." (Funny how this wisdom has been forgotten by her supporters now that she has abandoned her own actual responsibilities in public office.)

The latest flashpoint for this kind of animus is the near-certain elevation to the Supreme Court of Sonia Sotomayor, whose Senate confirmation hearings arrive this week. Prominent Palinists were fast to demean Sotomayor as a dim-witted affirmative-action baby. Fred Barnes of The Weekly Standard, the Palinist hymnal, labeled Sotomayor "not the smartest" and suggested that Princeton awards academic honors on a curve. Karl Rove said, "I'm not really certain how intellectually strong she would be." Those maligning the long and accomplished career of an Ivy League-educated judge do believe in affirmative-action — but only for white people like Palin, whom they boosted for vice president despite her minimal achievements and knowledge of policy, the written word or even geography.

The politics of resentment are impervious to facts. Palinists regard their star as an icon of working-class America even though the Palins' combined reported income ($211,000) puts them in the top 3.6 percent of American households. They see her as a champion of conservative fiscal principles even though she said yes to the Bridge to Nowhere and presided over a state that ranks No.1 in federal pork.

Nowhere is the power of resentment to trump reason more flagrantly illustrated than in the incessant complaint by Palin and her troops that she is victimized by a double standard in the "mainstream media." In truth, the commentators at ABC, NBC and CNN — often the same ones who judged Michelle Obama a drag on her husband — all tried to outdo each other in praise for Palin when she emerged at the Republican convention 10 months ago. Even now, the so-called mainstream media can grade Palin on a curve: at MSNBC's "Morning Joe" last week, Palin's self-proclaimed representation of the "real America" was accepted as a given, as if white rural America actually still was the nation's baseline.

The Palinists' bogus beefs about double standards reached farcical proportions at Fox News on the sleepy pre-Fourth Friday afternoon when word of her abdication hit the East. The fill-in anchor demanded that his token Democratic stooge name another female politician who had suffered such "disgraceful attacks" as Palin. When the obvious answer arrived — Hillary Clinton — the Fox host angrily protested that Clinton had never been attacked in "a sexual way" or "about her children."

Americans have short memories, but it's hardly ancient history that conservative magazines portrayed Hillary Clinton as both a dominatrix cracking a whip and a broomstick-riding witch. Or that Rush Limbaugh held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton on television to identify the "White House dog." Or that Palin's running mate, John McCain, told a sexual joke linking Hillary and Chelsea and Janet Reno. Yet the same conservative commentariat that vilified both Clintons 24/7 now whines that Palin is receiving "the kind of mauling" that the media "always reserve for conservative Republicans." So said The Wall Street Journal editorial page last week. You'd never guess that The Journal had published six innuendo-laden books on real and imagined Clinton scandals, or that the Clintons had been a leading target of both Letterman and Leno monologues, not to mention many liberal editorial pages (including that of The Times), for much of a decade.

Those Republicans who have not drunk the Palin Kool-Aid are apocalyptic for good reason. She could well be their last presidential candidate standing. Such would-be competitors as Mark Sanford, John Ensign and Newt Gingrich are too carnally compromised for the un-Clinton party. Mike Huckabee is Palin-lite. Tim Pawlenty, Bobby Jindal — really? That leaves the charisma-challenged Mitt Romney, precisely the kind of card-carrying Ivy League elitist Palinists loathe, no matter how hard he tries to cosmetically alter his history as a socially liberal fat-cat banker. Palin would crush him like a bug. She has the Teflon-coated stature among Republicans that Romney can only fantasize about.

Were Palin actually to secure the 2012 nomination, the result would be a fiasco for the G.O.P. akin to Goldwater 1964, as the most relentless conservative Palin critic, David Frum, has predicted. Or would it? No one thought Richard Nixon — a far less personable commodity than Palin — would come back either after his sour-grapes "last press conference" of 1962. But Democratic divisions and failures gave him his opportunity in 1968. With unemployment approaching 10 percent and a seemingly bottomless war in Afghanistan, you never know, as Palin likes to say, what doors might open.

It's more likely that she will never get anywhere near the White House, and not just because of her own limitations. The Palinist "real America" is demographically doomed to keep shrinking. But the emotion it represents is disproportionately powerful for its numbers. It's an anger that Palin enjoyed stoking during her "palling around with terrorists" crusade against Obama on the campaign trail. It's an anger that's curdled into self-martyrdom since Inauguration Day.

Its voice can be found in the postings at a Web site maintained by the fans of Mark Levin, the Obama hater who is, at this writing, the No.2 best-selling hardcover nonfiction writer in America. (Glenn Beck is No.1 in paperback nonfiction.) Politico surveyed them last week. "Bottomline, do you know of any way we can remove these idiots before this country goes down the crapper?" wrote one Levin fan. "I WILL HELP!!! Should I buy a gun?" Another called for a new American revolution, promising "there will be blood."

These are the cries of a constituency that feels disenfranchised — by the powerful and the well-educated who gamed the housing bubble, by a news media it keeps being told is hateful, by the immigrants who have taken some of their jobs, by the African-American who has ended a white monopoly on the White House. Palin is their born avatar. She puts a happy, sexy face on ugly emotions, and she can solidify her followers' hold on a G.O.P. that has no leaders with the guts or alternative vision to stand up to them or to her.

For a week now, critics in both parties have had a blast railing at Palin. It's good sport. But just as the media muttering about those unseemly "controversies" rallied the fans of the King of Pop, so are Palin's political obituaries likely to jump-start her lucrative afterlife.

cannon_fodder

Saw this and it made me chuckle:

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