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Who Is Influencing Health Care Reform?

Started by Conan71, July 24, 2009, 03:33:08 PM

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Conan71

Does the name Emanuel ring a bell?

As in Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, brother of White House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel.  He's one of the close advisor's on health care reform.

Here's a good read up on what allocated healthcare could look like if they rely much on Dr. Emanuel's models. 

http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/PIIS0140673609601379.pdf

http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Where_Civic_Republicanism_and_Deliberative_Democracy_Meet.pdf

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-advisor-would-deny-medical-care-to-seniors-demented-51414342.html

Some are summarizing that quality of life care for our older Americans will become a thing of the past, replaced with more hospice-like care which is palliative in nature and is end-of-life.  According to models discussed by Dr. Emanuel, the very old and very young will get the least care.  Something to look forward to, I suppose.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

When you go, get lucky and go quick.

guido911

Please do not let this person have any influence over anything:



Anyone care to guess who she voted for last election?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

TURobY

---Robert

cannon_fodder

It$ hard to tell who can influence Health $ervice$ in the United $tate$ the$e day$. 
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I crush grooves.

guido911

Gotta go to the cover of Drudge wherein he examines financing health care reform.

http://drudgereport.com/
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Please, please let it be Krugman who is influencing health care reform--certain defeat.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=GduznzqGaG

This guy won a Nobel prize?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD

Quote from: guido911 on July 28, 2009, 11:00:29 AM
Please, please let it be Krugman who is influencing health care reform--certain defeat.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=GduznzqGaG

This guy won a Nobel prize?

  Yup! Any change will be incredibly watered-down from what the country really needs.
 
Will Obama sell out to the healthcare industry?
If all the big industry players get what they want, the country won't get the reform it needs


By Bill Moyers and Michael Winship

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/07/27/health_care_reform/

" As the Republicans fired away, big business stepped up the attack, too, their lobbying and advertising guns blazing. The Chamber of Commerce, for one, announced a major campaign of rallies and print and Internet ads to crush the White House plan for a competitive public option allowing consumers to choose between a government plan and private health insurance. In key states where members of Congress remain on the fence, the airwaves are vibrating with television commercials aimed at shifting hearts and minds away from any change that might threaten profits."

Bill Moyers: Dangerous Alliance of Health Industry and Right-Wingers Will Stop at Nothing to Derail Progressive Reforms

http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/141566/bill_moyers:_dangerous_alliance_of_health_industry_and_right-wingers_will_stop_at_nothing_to_derail_progressive_reforms/?page=entire

"The big drug companies are already so pleased with what they've been promised that they've brought back Harry and Louise -- the make-believe couple who starred in TV ads that helped torpedo the Clinton health care plan -- but this time they're in favor of reform.

According to The Associated Press, the drug industry's trade group PhRMA (the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America) and the drug company Pfizer "reported spending more money than other health care organizations on lobbying in the second quarter of this year" - $6.2 million from PhRMA, $5.6 million from Pfizer.

"Including its latest report, PhRMA has now spent $13.1 million lobbying so far this year. Pfizer has reported $11.7 million in lobbying expenses for 2009."


Bill Moyers is a great Oklahoman.

guido911

Bill Moyers is a douchebag, anti-Semetic, crank of the highest order. You have the nuts (hypothetically speaking of course) to rap me for citing Fox News but push this miserable waste of sperm as a legitimate news source? To the point, Moyers is blaming repubs for the problems with Obamacare. Remind me. The House is overwhelming dem and and the dems have a fillibuster majority in the Senate and POTUS is a dem. Yep. Sounds like the repubs have all the power to stop the public option. 
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD

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Quote from: guido911 on July 28, 2009, 01:41:56 PM
Bill Moyers is a douchebag, anti-Semetic, crank of the highest order. You have the nuts (hypothetically speaking of course) to rap me for citing Fox News but push this miserable waste of sperm as a legitimate news source? To the point, Moyers is blaming repubs for the problems with Obamacare. Remind me. The House is overwhelming dem and and the dems have a fillibuster majority in the Senate and POTUS is a dem. Yep. Sounds like the repubs have all the power to stop the public option. 

First, it's dims. Spell it right.
Secondly, in Oklahoma we have a name for Blue Dog Democrats...we call them Republicans.
Third, you're a nut job. Faux news is non believable while PBS and NPR have credibility just like FOTD has balls....

guido911

This vet NAILS it:



Oh nevermind, he's just a domestic terrorist threat or something
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD

Quote from: guido911 on July 29, 2009, 11:36:59 AM
This vet NAILS it:



Oh nevermind, he's just a domestic terrorist threat or something

Guido....you can't discern jingoism when it smacks from an apparent non-injured vet? This guys a future rambler for the repiglicans or a lobbyist for the health care industry mafioso.....

guido911

Quote from: FOTD on July 29, 2009, 03:26:17 PM
Guido....you can't discern jingoism when it smacks from an apparent non-injured vet? This guys a future rambler for the repiglicans or a lobbyist for the health care industry mafioso.....

I guess I can't discern jingoism. I can discern that this guy has done a sh!t ton more than you to make this a safe country--even for doofuses like you that cannot appreciate that you have the right to speak freely because of him.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD

Quote from: guido911 on July 29, 2009, 05:10:47 PM
I guess I can't discern jingoism. I can discern that this guy has done a sh!t ton more than you to make this a safe country--even for doofuses like you that cannot appreciate that you have the right to speak freely because of him.

How do you know that? Guesser.

Hoss

Quote from: guido911 on July 29, 2009, 05:10:47 PM
I guess I can't discern jingoism. I can discern that this guy has done a sh!t ton more than you to make this a safe country--even for doofuses like you that cannot appreciate that you have the right to speak freely because of him.

Once again, the 'holier-than-thou' attitude because you served in the military.  It grows tiresome and you know it does yet you continue to use it.  I wondered when you'd trot that old method out again.

But you won't respond, will you.  Until someone other than I responds.