Inhofe on the birthers

[joiei]

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/27/inhofe-birthers-point/

Inhofe: The birthers 'have a point,' 'I don't discourage it.'

Recently, the birther movement has gained greater notoriety, with CNN's Lou Dobbs promoting the discredited myth and right-wing activists confronting members of Congress. Though the conspiracy theory has been thoroughly-debunked, some Republicans continue to feed "the wacko wing" of the party. For instance, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) recently told Politico that he thinks the birthers "have a point":

    But as if to illustrate the touchiness of the subject, Hoekstra quickly added: "Not that this isn't important."

    Sen. Jim Inhofe has also tried to find the elusive middle ground.

    "They have a point," he said of the birthers. "I don't discourage it. ... But I'm going to pursue defeating [Obama] on things that I think are very destructive to America."

It's unclear why Politico characterizes Inhofe's decided support for the "birthers" as an "elusive middle ground" stance.
Update Inhofe spokesman Jared Young sent another statement to Greg Sargent on the birther issue:

    The point that they make is the Constitutional mandate that the U.S. President be a natural born citizen, and the White House has not done a very good job of dispelling the concerns of these citizens. My focus is on issues where I can make a difference to stop the liberal agenda being pushed by President Obama.

And this guy represents a sane and sound citizenery of Oklahoma?

[FOTD]

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/27/inhofe-birthers-point/

And this guy represents a sane and sound citizenery of Oklahoma?

He's bad. Jingoistic neo-con pig. Senile old coot?

[Townsend]

It's gotten crazy enough so Hawaii has to post another response.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate

HONOLULU – State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.

[cannon_fodder]

Obama wasn't born in the US

State of Hawaii (the entity that would issue the BC):  We have a birth certificate.

It's a fake!

Newspapers:  Birth announcement was made in our paper(s).

Those are rigged!

State of Hawaii:  We have reviewed the birth certificate, it is authentic.

You're in on it!


Really, you can't win.  If Obama released his original certified birth certificate they'd claim he used his power to have a fake on made.  No matter what you can't prove to them he was born in the USA.  As would be the same with the majority of Americans - if you claim the documentation is all faked, how do you prove it? 

Apparently they are unable to attack him on the merits of his policies or lack thereof.  Same problem people had with Bush (attacking Halliburton connections or other stupid things).  It distracts from real issues and nothing will ever come of it.

[USRufnex]

Birthers?  Birchers?  All just a little bit of history repeating.....

[FOTD]

Defy the crazy birther people!

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=16&articleid=20090728_16_A1_Obamas872273

Senaturd Nonsense from Oklahoma....

Lou Dobbers?

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

There is a movie coming out on Aug 4th (Obama's alledged birthdate) about the truth of Obama's birthplace and heritage.  He needs to just come out and show his long form birth certificate that comes straight from the Hawaiin government.  That would eliminate all of this but he won't do it.  Until he does so I cannot accept him as President and neither should anyone else.  He also has not released any of his school records or records from previous political positions.  Previous Presidents have released this information with no problem.  He is definately hiding something and this won't go away.

[Townsend]

Oy vey

[cannon_fodder]

There is no constitutional requirement for him to release those records.  Many of them are public record (such as law review articles, $5 for reprints).  Most are not relevant at all (school records).  And all questions have been answered by officials in charge.

Your stance is:  Yeah he doesn't have to release them and every official in a capacity to verify the authenticity of said status has done so, but I think it's a big scam.  I think if those same officials released a copy of it then I'd believe him.

And the response is:  no you wouldn't.  You'd just claim they were in a on the scam and fabricated a copy.  So nothing at all would be solved.

I've never seen a birth certificate for any politician.  Never cared.  If the officials in charge say he was born in Hawaii, it's pretty stupid for me to argue that they are wrong lacking evidence of some vast conspiracy.

[Hoss]

There is a movie coming out on Aug 4th (Obama's alledged birthdate) about the truth of Obama's birthplace and heritage.  He needs to just come out and show his long form birth certificate that comes straight from the Hawaiin government.  That would eliminate all of this but he won't do it.  Until he does so I cannot accept him as President and neither should anyone else.  He also has not released any of his school records or records from previous political positions.  Previous Presidents have released this information with no problem.  He is definately hiding something and this won't go away.

Oh boy...

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

If the officials in charge say he was born in Hawaii, it's pretty stupid for me to argue that they are wrong lacking evidence of some vast conspiracy.

So you just believe everything the officials in charge say?  That is why this country is so messed up.

[joiei]

There is a movie coming out on Aug 4th (Obama's alledged birthdate) about the truth of Obama's birthplace and heritage.  He needs to just come out and show his long form birth certificate that comes straight from the Hawaiin government.  That would eliminate all of this but he won't do it.  Until he does so I cannot accept him as President and neither should anyone else.  He also has not released any of his school records or records from previous political positions.  Previous Presidents have released this information with no problem.  He is definately hiding something and this won't go away.

who, which presidents have had to produce a copy of their birth certificates.   I would guess that President Obama has a passport and you can't get one of those without a birth certificate of certificate of nationalization.  So name them, the presidents that you speak of that have had to show their birth certificates.  And his birth certificate has already been released or have you not been paying attention.    And if you can not link to proof then your arugument is so totally bogus.

[jamesrage]

I wonder how many of the people that bash the birthers are the same ones themselves who believe in the Bush stole the elections,Bush lied to get us to war,Bush went AWOL,believe Bush or the government had something to do with 9-11 or the Iraq war is for oil?  Every side has their conspiracy theorist.

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

He never released his long form birth certificate.  What he released was a Certificate of Live Birth that does not say what hospital he was born in or have any official seal or signatures.  He also has not released his passport.  John McCain released his long form birth certificate because he was born at a US military base outside the US that is considered US soil.  Other Presidents have never been questionable.  Obama is questionable by enough people for this to still be in the news.  If he cannot prove that he is a natural born citizen then he is breaking the law. 

FYI:  I am not a Republican or a Bush supporter.  I think Obama is Bush part 2 but worse.

[jamesrage]

He never released his long form birth certificate.

Most of the Obama birth truffers claimed his short form was a fake,why wouldn't they do that with the long form?

What he released was a Certificate of Live Birth that does not say what hospital he was born in or have any official seal or signatures.  

It does have the signature and raised seal.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

raised seal


signature





He also has not released his passport.  John McCain released his long form birth certificate because he was born at a US military base outside the US that is considered US soil.  Other Presidents have never been questionable.


 

Obama is questionable by enough people for this to still be in the news.  

What has Obama done to make people question where he was born? He hasn't done anything to make people question where he was born.   The question came up because of sore losers and conspiracy loons with an ax to grind.