Meaningless Republicans

[FOTD]

Lucas, Cole, Fallin, Inhofe, Sullivan and Coburn.

The rest the country does not need them....neither do we.


Appears the Democrats and Obama are going to change this country without them. The Dems tried to work within a unified government but hate talk radio and Faux News destroyed any chance of a United states on health care by throwing out disinformation that angry white Amerika bought into. A bunch of disabled politicians feeding stupid media outlets resulting in chaos. Well, it is going to backfire because the Repigs don't have any ideas nor do they have any ability to legislate due to pitiful leadership. Breaks my heart....


Bi-partisanship is dead. Hallelujah.

And those blue dogs? Just wait to see the leverage their own party exhibits on them. DINO's are dead meat if they continue to play into POTUS OBAMA's opposition.

We might just get health care change after all......


More read up from Matt!: http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/matt-taibbi-no-public-option-will-mean-rev

[FOTD]

 This year, when you're writing holiday cards to your friends and loved ones, there are two more people who need to hear from you: Senator Tom Coburn and Senator Jim Inhofe.

With the Senate deep in final negotiations -- and a compromise just introduced that increases choice and drives costs down -- your senators need to understand how urgent reform really is.

So we've come up with a unique way for you to get the message across -- by sending your senators a card with your holiday wish for the season.

Send a holiday card to your senators, telling them that your wish this season is for them to pass health insurance reform:


http://my.barackobama.com/HolidayCard5?Zip=73116

Since the full Senate began debating reform just over two weeks ago, approximately 224,000 Americans have lost their health insurance, while spiraling costs have forced countless more into bankruptcy or foreclosure.

That's a big number -- it's as many people as live in a city like Baton Rouge, and more than live in Reno.

This crisis affects everyone in our community. It could be a father down the street who now won't be able to pay for care when his son breaks his leg playing soccer, or a daughter who must watch helplessly as her newly-uninsured mother gets a breast cancer diagnosis she can't afford to treat.

Every day brings thousands more stories of heartbreak and struggle that just shouldn't be in a nation as blessed as ours.

So please take a moment to cut through the noise in D.C. with your simple holiday wish: affordable, quality health care for every American family.

Send your holiday card for health reform today:

http://my.barackobama.com/HolidayCard5?Zip=73116

Thanks

[guido911]

Good news, apparently Pelosi isn't pressing the public option as hard as before:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/10/pelosi-backs-off-public-o_n_387197.html

This is all the republicans fault. Oh wait:

Here's hoping reform fails just to pi$$ you off.

[FOTD]

Why are all your posts whiny?

[Hoss]

Why are all your posts whiny?

Because he's a Republican?

[Breadburner]

[buckeye]

Of course, roughly half the voting populace notwithstanding, why yes!  How on earth could anybody refuse the transcendent wisdom of the Dear Leader and his loyal cenobites?

Operating on the apparently immutable prejudices that democrats are noble and good, republicans cruel and evil, I suppose FOTD makes a little sense.   A little.  Operate with even the most remotely circumspect attitude and consideration, well...not so much.

At least in this thread, the most impotent, whiny posts are the first two.

Get a grip.

[FOTD]

Of course, roughly half the voting populace notwithstanding, why yes!  How on earth could anybody refuse the transcendent wisdom of the Dear Leader and his loyal cenobites?

Operating on the apparently immutable prejudices that democrats are noble and good, republicans cruel and evil, I suppose FOTD makes a little sense.   A little.  Operate with even the most remotely circumspect attitude and consideration, well...not so much.

At least in this thread, the most impotent, whiny posts are the first two.

Get a grip.

The first post seems to be true.

You don't believe in sending holiday cards and greetings to your Senators?

[Hometown]

I'm afraid that I've almost given up on ever finding a real Democrat in this state.  I thought I liked Boren but when I emailed his office telling him that if he didn't support health care reform I would contribute to his opponent in the next primary, he responded with his endorsement of tort reform.  

If Boren was smart he would have used his opposition to healthcare reform as leverage to obtain something meaningful for Oklahoma, but he isn't -- smart that is.  I'd take that Senator from Louisiana any day.  She leveraged and got $300 Million for Louisiana.  

Yes, there isn't one Democrat office holder in Oklahoma that I can support.  And the only thing worse than Oklahoma Democrats are Oklahoma Republicans.  Outlaw Territory is embracing the Party of Crooks.  Certain logic there.

Local Democrats have tried so hard to out Republican the Republicans that they have completely alienated their base.  So I'm looking forward to another bare bottom spanking for Oklahoma Democrats in our next election cycle.  Maybe they'll wise up and reinvent themselves and maybe the sun will shine tonight at midnight.

It's unfortunate because I can't think of a state more beat down and third world like than Oklahoma except for maybe Mississippi.  I mean we need healthcare reform more than anyone and we are the most vocal opponents of it.  Stupid on a stick.  A net negative for the nation.  We just call it home.

But Oklahoma is ripe for pickin by some wily Liberal that knows how to talk to the hicks with words they understand.  That's when I'll find my real Democrat.

[Red Arrow]

But Oklahoma is ripe for pickin by some wily Liberal that knows how to talk to the hicks with words they understand.  That's when I'll find my real Democrat.

You spent too many years on the left coast and forgot that most Oklahomans aren't as stupid as the folks on either coast think. (Remember that Oklahomans are the ones clever enough to have survived the dust bowl days right here in Oklahoma.) There is a big difference in being stupid and having a lack of a formal education.

Sometimes it is difficult to admit that the problem isn't that "your" message is not getting out, it is that "your" message is being rejected.

[Hometown]

Tell that to Huey Long.  And the Central Valley is owned by Okies that couldn't make it here.

[Red Arrow]

Tell that to Huey Long.  And the Central Valley is owned by Okies that couldn't make it here.

Imagine how much better the Central Valley could have been if run/owned by the capable Oklahomans that stayed here. (I'm not bragging on family here, I'm originally from near Philly, PA.)

Huey Long... Before my time but I think he owned Louisiana for quite a while.  I believe I've read that some of his procedures were less than admirable by today's corruption standards.

[buckeye]

Well, God help Boren that he has a different approach...and wouldn't sell his vote.

Most politicians are inherently crooked - if you believe the democrats are less afflicted than their opposition, you're hopelessly naive.

Sad to hear that you have so much disrespect for your peers as well.  But it's typical of the current democratic viewpoint, that of the public as useful fools, incapable of making good decisions and caring for themselves.  Funny that the 'party of the little guy', the populists, actually have so little respect for the common man's ability to reason or even function as a human without so much help from the political nobility.  

The first post seems to be true.

You don't believe in sending holiday cards and greetings to your Senators?

Cutesie, but entirely without substance.  I think we're just here (cosmically speaking) to annoy each other.

Edit:

As an aside, I once read that the Okies who stayed regarded the rest as "quitters".  Those who remained, whatever else, were heartier than hell.

[FOTD]

An ugly finale for health-care reform

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/20/AR2009122002872.html?hpid=topnews

By Dana Milbank
Monday, December 21, 2009; 2:00 AM

"Going into Monday morning's crucial Senate vote on health-care legislation, Republican chances for defeating the bill had come down to a last, macabre hope. They needed one Democratic senator to die -- or at least become incapacitated.

At 4 p.m. Sunday afternoon -- nine hours before the 1 a.m. vote that would effectively clinch the legislation's passage -- Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) went to the Senate floor to propose a prayer. "What the American people ought to pray is that somebody can't make the vote tonight," he said. "That's what they ought to pray."

It was difficult to escape the conclusion that Coburn was referring to the 92-year-old, wheelchair-bound Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.V.) who has been in and out of hospitals and lay at home ailing. It would not be easy for Byrd to get out of bed in the wee hours with deep snow on the ground and ice on the roads -- but without his vote, Democrats wouldn't have the 60 they needed.

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the number-two Democratic leader, went to the floor to complain about Coburn's unholy prayer, which followed an unsuccessful request from Democrats for an earlier vote because of Byrd's "significant health problems." Said Durbin: "When it reaches a point where we're praying, asking people to pray, that senators wouldn't be able to answer the roll call, I think it has crossed the line."

Actually, the line was crossed long ago, during the summer of death panels and socialists. But Democrats weren't in the best position to take the high road Sunday evening. One of their own members, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.) had just delivered an overwrought jeremiad comparing the Republicans to Nazis on Kristallnacht, lynch mobs of the South, and bloodthirsty crowds of the French Revolution.



"Too many colleagues are embarked on a desperate, no-holds-barred mission of propaganda, obstruction and fear," he said. "History cautions us of the excesses to which these malignant, vindictive passions can ultimately lead. Tumbrils have rolled through taunting crowds. Broken glass has sparkled in darkened streets. Strange fruit has hung from southern trees." Assuming the role of Old Testament prophet, Whitehouse promised a "day of judgment" and a "day of reckoning" for Republicans.

The day's ugly words were a fitting finale for the whole sorry health-care debate of 2009. Democrats have finally -- and after jettisoning any trace of government-run health care while swallowing new abortion restrictions -- found their way to success; the overnight vote proves they have the numbers to prevail in the remaining votes this week. But it certainly wasn't pretty.

Senate Democratic leaders made the bill fit their fiscal requirements with a series of budgetary gimmicks, and even then the final cost estimate didn't instill confidence. The Congressional Budget Office sent lawmakers a letter on Sunday saying it goofed and overstated the cost savings from the bill by half a trillion dollars. Then there were the goodies given out to buy the votes of Democratic holdouts, most notably Sen. Ben Nelson (Neb.), who got a "Cornhusker kickback" in the form of an extra $100 million in Medicaid payments for his state. On the Senate floor Saturday, Republicans forced Democrats into the embarrassing position of objecting to similar payouts to the other 49 states.

But all of that put together wasn't quite as noxious as the two sentences that escaped Coburn's lips on the Senate floor. The Oklahoman, who led the effort last week to stall proceedings by forcing an hours-long reading of legislative language, had already lobbed a grenade onto the floor when he said that, because of the legislation, Medicare recipients are "going to die sooner."

On Saturday, Coburn likened the current situation to the period preceding the Civil War. "The crisis of confidence in this country is now at an apex that has not seen in over 150 years, and that lack of confidence undermines the ability of legitimate governance," he said. "There's a lot of people out there today who...will say, 'I give up on my government,' and rightly so."

Earlier Sunday, Coburn, a medical doctor by training, held another news conference and accused Democrats of "corruption" in drafting the bill. He then went out onto the floor two hours later to discuss his prayer that one of the Democrats wouldn't make it to the chamber. A few days earlier, Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.) and Sam Brownback (Kansas) joined a public prayer for the bill's defeat -- but Coburn, as usual, went further.

Durbin, learning of Coburn's prayer, went to the floor 45 minutes later to challenge him to a rhetorical duel. Coburn declined to return. "I don't think we should be wishing misfortune on either side of the aisle," Durbin said of his absent colleague.

Coburn was wearing blue jeans, an argyle sweater and a tweed jacket with elbow patches when he walked back into the chamber a few minutes before 1 a.m. He watched without expression when Byrd was wheeled in, dabbing his eyes and nose with tissues, his complexion pale. When his name was called, Byrd shot his right index finger into the air as he shouted "aye," then pumped his left fist in defiance. "


Coburn's lost mind.....

[Conan71]

Right, and where does Durbin get off thinking that Coburn was directing that at Byrd?? What a bunch of shicken-chits, voting on this pile in the middle of the night and trying to imply Republicans wish ill-health on the elderly.  Durbin's first name fits.