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Forget Everyone Else It's Medlock vs. Bartlett

Started by MDepr2007, August 28, 2009, 06:38:28 PM

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sgrizzle

Quote from: RecycleMichael on September 01, 2009, 09:53:56 AM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090901_11_A8_ChrisM92325

Medlock calls Bartlett a "liberal".

Look closely at the picture. Medlock calls himself a "concervative"

Spelling is hard.

I just posted that picture on medlock's facebook page. Goes well with the flyer I got in the mail for "Bartlet"

I'm voting for Nathaniel Booth, at least he can spell.

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on September 01, 2009, 09:42:55 AM
Conan's not drinking...DIBS

Marshall's will keep for a month in the bottle, I suspect  ;)
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: Wrinkle on September 01, 2009, 09:44:34 AM
So, let me get this straight. You don't think there was anything dysfunctional going on at the airport, TAA or TAIT?

Does that mean you support Kitty and Bartletts' $7.1 million taypayer handout to BOK for TAIT/TAA's liabilities the city did not owe?

And, for the record, there's been no more profound 'bully' in Tulsa's recent history than Ms. Kitty. Bartlett is the next designated hitter there, but not likely as competent. OTOH, doesn't really take much to follow directions.



Wrinkle, I pay attention and respect to your posts and usually find your grasp of city issues and figures to be pretty well on target. 

You obviously have paid little attention to any of my posts other than ones about your guy for mayor.  I'm still PO'd about the payout to BOK, I don't know where you get the idea that I'm not.  I simply asked what ever happened to CM's "audit" of the TAIT/TAA that was going to happen?  If you really are disgusted with partisanship during Mayor Taylor's tenure, why on earth would you support a political thug like Mudschlock?  Speaking of, wasn't he one of the chief sh!t stirrers in the whole wasted Christiansen/Roadhouse flap which turned out to be nothing out at Riverside Airport?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2009, 12:09:01 PM
Marshall's will keep for a month in the bottle, I suspect  ;)

Nope, best if partaken in by the tenth...when is your ride?

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on September 01, 2009, 12:14:13 PM
Nope, best if partaken in by the tenth...when is your ride?

MS-150 is 9/26 & 9/27.

Boot of the Oklahoma rowing regatta is Oct. 3- A cooler of Marshall's may be heading to OKC with me  ;)
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2009, 12:16:11 PM
MS-150 is 9/26 & 9/27.

Boot of the Oklahoma rowing regatta is Oct. 3- A cooler of Marshall's may be heading to OKC with me  ;)

My hat is off to you exercise man

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on September 01, 2009, 12:18:26 PM
My hat is off to you exercise man

Sounds like a Bud Light commercial in the making...
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

#37
Nice effigy of "Bartlet"

Wrinkle, how can you pull for a guy when childish antics is his most effective tool of persuasion?  Looks like he's blowing pretty hard here.


"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

rwarn17588

I've said this before, but a middle-aged Republican-voting woman told me two years ago:

"Chris Medlock is too immature to be mayor."

Wrinkle

#39
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2009, 12:13:57 PM
Wrinkle, I pay attention and respect to your posts and usually find your grasp of city issues and figures to be pretty well on target. 

You obviously have paid little attention to any of my posts other than ones about your guy for mayor.  I'm still PO'd about the payout to BOK, I don't know where you get the idea that I'm not.  I simply asked what ever happened to CM's "audit" of the TAIT/TAA that was going to happen?  If you really are disgusted with partisanship during Mayor Taylor's tenure, why on earth would you support a political thug like Mudschlock?  Speaking of, wasn't he one of the chief sh!t stirrers in the whole wasted Christiansen/Roadhouse flap which turned out to be nothing out at Riverside Airport?


I'm going to have to admit to not having read a lot of posts lately, but there are definitely those which get my attention. I do, however, seem to recall your dissatisfaction over the $7.1 million, yet your comments about the 'audit' of TAA/TAIT give the impression it could be something else.

IAC, if you've followed it, and I know you have, you'd be less than honest if you think it was CM's prerogative. You'd know the 'NEW' Gang of Five after Roop left prevented it outright by not authorizing the funding for the audit.

So much for transparency in government.

As for 'partisanship' either during the current administration or the current campaign, I can say it's almost not a factor.  If Bartlett wasn't promoting himself as a conservative, I wouldn't even be talking about it. In fact, haven't here at all.

It's not about partisanship, imo.
Of the two, again imo, only one does have a true grasp of government as it was intended.

I don't know what CM did to push your buttons, but you've been unusually harsh there. Sure, he's made mistakes. There isn't one of them that hasn't. There's many more who are making decisions and mistakes with huge sums of our money which never gets reported.

The established keepers of local government don't like being questioned, and that's the only real reason you hear complaints about Chris being an aggitation. He asks questions. I'm perfectly glad the Roadhouse issue was at least aired. Even you would have to admit it had potential to be something else. Showing it wasn't was an important part of the process we would like to see much more often. So much of what goes on around here is not transparent that the parts that are almost don't matter. Those parts actually seem more orchestrated to give the appearance of propriety, when the real stuff happens elsewhere.

Breaking that cycle isn't going to be easy or be comfortable for those who have worked within that system for so long. CM would be a good start. DB would be more of the same.

That's the only point I wish to make. Everything else is just politics, campaigning and sour grapes.

Four years of CM could do no more harm than the last term has for the future of this city and its residents.

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Wrinkle

Quote from: rwarn17588 on September 01, 2009, 12:57:25 PM
I've said this before, but a middle-aged Republican-voting woman told me two years ago:

"Chris Medlock is too immature to be mayor."

So, you rely on middle-aged Republican-voting women for your positions?

Even only two years ago, I'd have to say you've missed an entire cycle of evolution in CM. People do make progress, learn and modify their tactics. As I said, CM is the only one with a genuine grasp of how government should work. I stand by that statement, and I'm just a middle-aged voting, pudgey, balding infant of politics.

We'll get to Adelson later. Seems like a nice enough guy with some state legislative experience. But, in looking through his Senate accomplishments, and I have, it's filled with mostly low income, homeless, disadvantage medical issues.  While admirable, by itself, I'd have to ask what that brings to a Mayor's race, or, more apropo, does that give him the ability to run a city? Perhaps, at least to some level of proficiency. But, I'd still suggest CM is the one who knows how it's supposed to work, given the choice. And, I have, or soon will be.


MDepr2007

This thread was civil longer than I expected but is now gone , thanks to those that had meaningful thoughts.

The audit that Medlock wanted went away because of the 5 votes from the other gang of five councilors. Ask Jack about it, he predicted it would just vanish on the last discussion of it.

FOTD

Quote from: MDepr2007 on September 01, 2009, 04:44:20 PM
This thread was civil longer than I expected but is now gone , thanks to those that had meaningful thoughts.

The audit that Medlock wanted went away because of the 5 votes from the other gang of five councilors. Ask Jack about it, he predicted it would just vanish on the last discussion of it.

Why are none of the candidates, to my knowledge, running on shaking down Public Works?

You think they are afraid it would hurt them to say this election is about the status quo and the pitiful job conducted for over 20 years by the backbone department of local government. Mayors are so co dependent on Charles Hardt. This should be a referendum on the real powers that be.

Here comes FOTD just in time to add some civility and put this thread back on track.

sgrizzle

Christiansen is pushing the Charles Hardt angle pretty hard on the campaign trail. I think Medlock wants him to stay.

Oh, and just to add more info, it was a 23yo volunteer working for Medlock who was incapable of spelling conservative.

sgrizzle

Some other comments on the "Dewey Bartlet" flyer:

Why say "national chairman of the National Stripper Wells Association?" Isn't that a bit redundant? And why, oh why, did the typo not involve leaving the words "Wells" off?

It says "Dewey Bartlett has devoed his life to creating jobs, .." but wasn't it reported he employs about 8 people currently but used to employ hundreds?