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Make your voice heard. What should be done with Driller's Stadium?

Started by sgrizzle, September 11, 2009, 07:54:33 AM

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Bat Bat

I heard someone in town was trying to get a professional soccer team back in Tulsa.  I am all for turning it into a professional soccer field.

How about expanding Big Splash and making it nice "regional" water park?  More on the scale of a Wet N Wild or something like that.





sgrizzle

If I remember right the league in question is below MLS and more flexible on requirements (and lower on player pay) so they could survive at the "Tulsa County Stadium" easier, maybe prove viability of MLS.

USRufnex

Forget about Major League Soccer; USL1 at the old ballpark
« on: August 09, 2009, 02:41:33 pm »
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=14018.0

Believe it or not, compared to the salaries of the non-star players of MLS, USL-1 pay is pretty comparable.

Former TU player Ryan Pore was drafted by the Kansas City Wizards of MLS a few years back, but this year is playing with the Portland Timbers of USL-1..... and he's had a pretty good August...

Timbers' productive midfielder: That's Ryan Pore, as in 'score'
http://www.oregonlive.com/timbers/index.ssf/2009/08/timbers_productive_midfielder.html
http://www.uslsoccer.com/home/357692.html (includes video from USL-1 venues)




PepePeru

The site should be used for a bus station / park & ride station to downtown.
It could act as a hub.
It's centrally located, it has retail within walking distance, its surrounded by housing, would be ideal for the fair or other events at Expo Sq.





Conan71

Quote from: PepePeru on September 14, 2009, 09:40:39 AM
The site should be used for a bus station / park & ride station to downtown.
It could act as a hub.
It's centrally located, it has retail within walking distance, its surrounded by housing, would be ideal for the fair or other events at Expo Sq.


Considering there's acres and acres of parking on Expo Square, the last thing we need is one more parking lot, if that's what you are suggesting.  They could do a park and ride anywhere else on the grounds with the exception of fair week.

Let's see, what was it Randi Miller said they were going to do with the Bell's space?  Wasn't going to be a permanent parking lot....right!
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

PepePeru

Quote from: Conan71 on September 14, 2009, 09:59:46 AM
Considering there's acres and acres of parking on Expo Square, the last thing we need is one more parking lot, if that's what you are suggesting.  They could do a park and ride anywhere else on the grounds with the exception of fair week.

Let's see, what was it Randi Miller said they were going to do with the Bell's space?  Wasn't going to be a permanent parking lot....right!

I'm suggesting a transportation hub / bus station.
I guess I missed where, in my original post, I suggested adding a parking lot.

The site isn't that large.  A multi-modal transportation hub would occupy a large part of this.   Visitors to the fairgrounds, expo square ride a bus from a satellite parking lot, then within fairgrounds there is a trolley, tram system to transport people within the site.  During the rest of the year, its an operating mass transit station, utilizing existing parking lots for park & ride to employment centers, perhaps the airport.

This is pretty much the geographic center of the City of Tulsa.



cannon_fodder

NOT A PARKING LOT.

NOT A PARKING LOT
NOT A PARKING LOT

Dear God, not a parking lot.
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Keeping it a ballpark stadium would have little real use.  Park and ride would be better accommodated using existing space at Expo Square (like the giant empty parking lot where Bell's used to be, that isn't "just" a parking lot of course).   I'm not sure what the best use would be, but I'm deathly afraid it will be more damn parking.

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I crush grooves.

PepePeru

Quote from: cannon_fodder on September 14, 2009, 11:04:20 AM
NOT A PARKING LOT.

NOT A PARKING LOT
NOT A PARKING LOT

Dear God, not a parking lot.
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Keeping it a ballpark stadium would have little real use.  Park and ride would be better accommodated using existing space at Expo Square (like the giant empty parking lot where Bell's used to be, that isn't "just" a parking lot of course).   I'm not sure what the best use would be, but I'm deathly afraid it will be more damn parking.



Well this is a problem then isn't it.
No one seems to have any good ideas for this site.
So far, most of you have ideas as to what it shouldn't be without offering any real ideas.

Shouldn't you be in congress by now?











Conan71

Quote from: PepePeru on September 14, 2009, 11:22:42 AM
Well this is a problem then isn't it.
No one seems to have any good ideas for this site.
So far, most of you have ideas as to what it shouldn't be without offering any real ideas.

Shouldn't you be in congress by now?



Just because you don't like other's ideas doesn't mean they are not good or relevant.  The ball park is still in excellent condition and could be used for all sorts of amateur and semi-pro events as well as outdoor concerts.  Why don't you start re-reading from the beginning.  There's been several ideas as to what it should be.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: PepePeru on September 14, 2009, 11:22:42 AM
Well this is a problem then isn't it.
No one seems to have any good ideas for this site.
So far, most of you have ideas as to what it shouldn't be without offering any real ideas.

Shouldn't you be in congress by now?




Seems like that's all we can do without being called crazy or severely disappointed. 

If someone comes up with a great idea I always feel like it's called off due to someone's status with the the "they".

My magic 8 ball is telling me to be prepared for heavy equipment and asphalt trucks.

I hope it's wrong.

PepePeru

Quote from: Conan71 on September 14, 2009, 11:46:37 AM
Just because you don't like other's ideas doesn't mean they are not good or relevant.  The ball park is still in excellent condition and could be used for all sorts of amateur and semi-pro events as well as outdoor concerts.  Why don't you start re-reading from the beginning.  There's been several ideas as to what it should be.

I didn't type "all" I typed "most" which you were included.
Compared to yahtzee dice, calvinball, domes and trampolines, amusement parks and water parks (on an approx. 500' x 500') site you're looking rather insightful.














TURobY

Actually, I'm not toally opposed to this site being used for some sort of mass-transit spot, as long as the only parking added is vertical and not horizontal. But, I'd RATHER see it used as a sport complex of some sort re-using the existing Driller's stadium.
---Robert

PepePeru

The citizens of Tulsa have ample opportunity to see high quality division I soccer played.  However, there's a reason why they don't play games at Chapman stadium...

So, get upset by this but there's already a great site for a pro or semi-pro soccer team to play and it's approx. at 71st and Mingeaux.

As it is right now, this facility and site isn't used 5-6 months out of the year.  So, sure we can half-donkey put an amphitheater in there, that wasn't designed for concerts and offers lovely views of the Lowe's and Walgreen's.

That annual .38 Special, Blue Oyster Cult show's going to bring in boucoup bucks.