House Votes to Suspend Acorn Funds After Video Uproar

[Gaspar]

Come on Swake, those ACORN folks in Baltimore were giving advice on the tax implications of bringing in underage sex slaves from El Salvador. Is there any way but a bad light that could shine on that. As for ACORN in general, 2 members were recently charged with voter fraud in Wisconsin:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/08/acorn-registration-workers-charged-felony-voter-fraud/

The brother of ACORN's founder embezzled $5M from ACORN:

http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/2009/10/05/embezzlement-acorn-founder-wade-rathke-embezzled-5-million-from-louisiana-acorn-subpoena-issued/

I am not sure how reliable this site is, but it details alleged ACORN voter irregularities:

http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html#nv

Come on Guid,

There are far more opportunities for El Salvidorian sex slaves in the United States than in El Salvidor.  In 5 or 10 years these young women will be of voting age, and with the upcoming amnesty legislation they will be citizens with free healthcare and a future.

Acorn was simply trying to open new possibilities for these young women.

[nathanm]

The brother of ACORN's founder embezzled $5M from ACORN:

I probably shouldn't let you in on this; it may be too much for your innocent ears, but here goes: Embezzlement is a depressingly regular occurrence in business, large and small. Moreover, the perps are usually not caught until they decide to step up to the big leagues and steal millions.

[guido911]

I probably shouldn't let you in on this; it may be too much for your innocent ears, but here goes: Embezzlement is a depressingly regular occurrence in business, large and small. Moreover, the perps are usually not caught until they decide to step up to the big leagues and steal millions.

You apparently missed the point. People blaming ACORN's downfall solely on O'Keefe, and flat ignoring ACORN's own sh!tty business practices and allegations of fraud, plainly do not know or refuse to discover the truth. Hey, let's blame the lying conservative "white kid" for taking down a mammoth organization which had access to millions in government money and not those in the organization. 

[nathanm]

Hey, let's blame the lying conservative "white kid" for taking down a mammoth organization which had access to millions in government money and not those in the organization. 

Let's do that, since the proximate cause of their closure is the lack of donations. The lack of donations which was set off by O'Keefe's activities.

[Gaspar]

Let's do that, since the proximate cause of their closure is the lack of donations. The lack of donations which was set off by O'Keefe's activities.

Thought it was because Congress suspended their federal funding?

[guido911]

Thought it was because Congress suspended their federal funding?

No dammit, it's the lying white kid (and let's not forget the lying white girl posing as the prostitute and the lying ACORN folks that were fired because of what they said that everyone forgets about)!  

[Gaspar]

Hmm. 

ACORN operates under several different names, but the Chicago based ACORN received 75% of it's funding from the government.

Don't worry, this is all smoke screen.  ACORN is not gone, nor is the "good work" they do.  They have simply disbanded and re-branded under different names.  This news was engineered to provide a "clean slate" for the new groups. 

If all goes well we will see them funded by the administration soon.  They are the grass roots campaign wing of this administration.  They are necessary.

Communities for Change
Alliance Community Empowerment
United for Justice
Affordable Housing Centers of America, Inc
Reform Empowerment, Inc.
Community Hope, Inc.

[nathanm]

Yes, it's a terrible thing to get people more involved in the political process. For shame!

And Gaspar? Can you at least try? 10% of their funding was from the federal government. 10%. It took all of 20 seconds to look it up.

Don't you think if there were real wrongdoing that some DA, somewhere would have brought charges?

[guido911]

Yes, it's a terrible thing to get people more involved in the political process. For shame!

Except of course those racist violent teabaggers; right?

[nathanm]

Except of course those racist violent teabaggers; right?

No, I'm glad the teabaggers are engaged, I just wish they'd base their ranting on reality rather than Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck's fertile imaginations. And quit committing political violence.

Maybe you're projecting?

[guido911]

Maybe you're projecting?

Maybe I am pointing out hypocrisy. Oh, and I wish ACORN would quit giving advice on how to "write off" underage sex slaves.

[nathanm]

Maybe I am pointing out hypocrisy. Oh, and I wish ACORN would quit giving advice on how to "write off" underage sex slaves.

Given the editing of the video and audio, I think it's a stretch to say for certain that is actually what happened. Who knows what question was actually asked.

Yes, I'm a hypocrite because I want every person who can handle political engagement without getting violent to be politically engaged. Some of us actually believe in representative democracy, thanks.

[fotd]

Given the editing of the video and audio, I think it's a stretch to say for certain that is actually what happened. Who knows what question was actually asked.

Yes, I'm a hypocrite because I want every person who can handle political engagement without getting violent to be politically engaged. Some of us actually believe in representative democracy, thanks.

BRILLIANCE!

[guido911]

Given the editing of the video and audio, I think it's a stretch to say for certain that is actually what happened. Who knows what question was actually asked.

Yes, I'm a hypocrite because I want every person who can handle political engagement without getting violent to be politically engaged. Some of us actually believe in representative democracy, thanks.

ACORN people were freakin fired and Congress cut off their money. But okay, keep your fingers in your ears.

As for your last point, here's a story from the 2008 GOP convention where violence and vandalism ruled.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/rnc-protests.html

I assume you held those folks in as much contempt as you do the teabaggers. Please post the link in this forum where you condemned those folks so I can compare.

[nathanm]

I assume you held those folks in as much contempt as you do the teabaggers. Please post the link in this forum where you condemned those folks so I can compare.

I hold political violence in contempt no matter who is doing it. Whether or not I post about a particular incident has no bearing on my position. If you haven't noticed, I'm not generally one to bring up stupid partisan smile here, only respond to it after somebody else has created the thread.