A Special Kind Of Hate Media

[FOTD]

These guys don't appeal to this demons side...but Beck, Rush, O'Reilly are mean people. Becks fake crying all the way to the bank. Hannity represents foreign ownership.
This divisional tactic is not good for our country....And no leader from the right cares to simmer it down.
In the meantime, we continue to wear our underwear on the inside out so the rest the world can see....


AND READ THIS! TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
Drudge, Limbaugh and the sad return of "Racial America" http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Drudge_Limbaugh_and_the_sad_return_of_Racial_America.html

[cannon_fodder]

Why weren't you posting daily threads on how people were having a special kind of hate for Bush?  I mean, other than your daily threads on hating bush and your epic "stupid" thread on Bush.  Strange how when YOU disagree with a president you can do as you see fit and it isn't racist or hateful, but when someone disagrees with a person you voted for (and I voted for too) it's just mean spirited hatefulness.

Yes, the right wing talking heads are full of spite.  Usually they are.  But you didn't feel the need to speak up when the left was doing the same crap a couple years back.

[nathanm]

Yes, the right wing talking heads are full of spite.  Usually they are.  But you didn't feel the need to speak up when the left was doing the same crap a couple years back.

First off, until MSNBC put Olbermann on the air, there was no mass media equivalent to the right wing noise machine. And even he isn't on the same level as Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly. I suppose you could point to Bill Moyers, but he isn't a flat out liar, so I don't think there's a fair comparison there.

[cannon_fodder]

MoveOn.org, Huffington, Cindy Sheehan, Air America, Michael Moore, Soros, most of Hollywood, etc..  There were plenty of people and plenty of main stream news organizations giving them a venue to espouse hatred for GW Bush.   FOTD himself espoused outright hatred daily. "Its Bushes fault" was a cliche.  Every gaff he made was national news.  He was called a child murder and compare unfavorably to Goebbels.  Everything Bush did was greed for oil or to feed the military industrial complex.  All opposition to Obama is because he's black.  It's lame.

Don't take this as support for the current mongering against Obama.  I think it is largely politically motivated and absent Obama switching parties he'd get more of the same from the talk radio yappers (Rush and Hannity for sure).   Much of Fox news is highly slanted, particularly their non-news coverage (that being talk shows, commentary, etc.).   You'll note I haven't joined in the chorus condemning Obama for his actions to date.  I'm just annoyed that the reaction to those that are condemning his every move is to break out the race card or act like this is unprecedented behavior.

I'm just pointing out that its all just politics.  Each side reacts the same way to the best of their abilities.  FOTD whined about everything Bush did, or didn't do for 8 years.  Some conservative will do the same thing for Obama.  And then they complain about the conduct of the other as if they aren't opposite sides of the same coin.

I find it tiresome going both ways. 

[Conan71]

You can't expect 8 years of partisan biznitching about President Bush to not wind up in partisan biznitching about President Obama.  Bush's supporters are getting their day in the sun now as antagonists to the current administration.  At some point, it'd be okay for one side or the other to declare a truce.  I'd love it, but I'm not thinking that's going to happen in my lifetime.

FOTD, you are waiting on GOP leaders to smack down protestors at town halls and "tea-baggers".   I'm waiting for President Obama to show some real leadership and ask people to tone down the racial rhetoric.  What makes your wishes more relevant than mine?

Parading a moron like Jiminy Carter out there to play the race card is setting back racial relations by 20 to 30 years.  It's pretty sickening.

[Cats Cats Cats]

You can't expect 8 years of partisan biznitching about President Bush to not wind up in partisan biznitching about President Obama.  Bush's supporters are getting their day in the sun now as antagonists to the current administration.  At some point, it'd be okay for one side or the other to declare a truce.  I'd love it, but I'm not thinking that's going to happen in my lifetime.

FOTD, you are waiting on GOP leaders to smack down protestors at town halls and "tea-baggers".   I'm waiting for President Obama to show some real leadership and ask people to tone down the racial rhetoric.  What makes your wishes more relevant than mine?

Parading a moron like Jiminy Carter out there to play the race card is setting back racial relations by 20 to 30 years.  It's pretty sickening.

"I mean, that's the lesson we're being taught here today. Kid shouldn't have been on the bus anyway. We need segregated buses — it was invading space and stuff. This is Obama's America." - Rush Limbaugh

You are right, Jimmy Cart is setting back race relations by 20 to 30 years.

[Conan71]

"I mean, that's the lesson we're being taught here today. Kid shouldn't have been on the bus anyway. We need segregated buses — it was invading space and stuff. This is Obama's America." - Rush Limbaugh

You are right, Jimmy Cart is setting back race relations by 20 to 30 years.

Just because some dip sh!t like Rush Limpbaugh makes comments like that it justifies a former POTUS fanning the flames of racism.  President Carter has done nothing but ratchet up the conservative talking heads and their resentment at being labled racists for not falling into lock-step with liberal policies. 

Again, I ask at what point does President Obama show real leadership and ask everyone to knock off the racial BS???

[nathanm]

Again, I ask at what point does President Obama show real leadership and ask everyone to knock off the racial BS???

I seem to recall he made a big speech about just that subject sometime last year.

[cannon_fodder]

I believe he made a similar comment recently where he said he didn't feel Joe Wilson's outburst was in any way racially motivated.  I give Obama props for avoiding anything having to do with the "race" card and addressing the one main issue that seemed to have something to do with it (beer summit).  Obama presents himself as the President of the United States - not the BLACK President of the United States.

[FOTD]

MoveOn.org, Huffington, Cindy Sheehan, Air America, Michael Moore, Soros, most of Hollywood, etc..  There were plenty of people and plenty of main stream news organizations giving them a venue to espouse hatred for GW Bush.   FOTD himself espoused outright hatred daily. "Its Bushes fault" was a cliche.  Every gaff he made was national news.  He was called a child murder and compare unfavorably to Goebbels.  Everything Bush did was greed for oil or to feed the military industrial complex.  All opposition to Obama is because he's black.  It's lame.

Don't take this as support for the current mongering against Obama.  I think it is largely politically motivated and absent Obama switching parties he'd get more of the same from the talk radio yappers (Rush and Hannity for sure).   Much of Fox news is highly slanted, particularly their non-news coverage (that being talk shows, commentary, etc.).   You'll note I haven't joined in the chorus condemning Obama for his actions to date.  I'm just annoyed that the reaction to those that are condemning his every move is to break out the race card or act like this is unprecedented behavior.

I'm just pointing out that its all just politics.  Each side reacts the same way to the best of their abilities.  FOTD whined about everything Bush did, or didn't do for 8 years.  Some conservative will do the same thing for Obama.  And then they complain about the conduct of the other as if they aren't opposite sides of the same coin.

I find it tiresome going both ways. 

Spouting off against a man's integrity and a political party's hypocrisy differs from spewing racism over the radio. You're goofy.

[FOTD]

Just because some dip sh!t like Rush Limpbaugh makes comments like that it justifies a former POTUS fanning the flames of racism.  President Carter has done nothing but ratchet up the conservative talking heads and their resentment at being labled racists for not falling into lock-step with liberal policies. 

Again, I ask at what point does President Obama show real leadership and ask everyone to knock off the racial BS???

The role of stopping this belongs to all civilized and decent Americans who refuse to go along with the hate mantra. The leadership of foreign owned media conglomerates and the GOP leaders fuel the fire by remaining silent over these overt racist remarks. THAT DIRTY PIG LIMBAUGH IS ANTI-AMERICAN AS YOU CAN GET.

Olbermann: 37 racist incidents prove Carter is right
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/09/17/olbermann-cites-37-racist-attacks-on-obama/


"Others (incidents), however, appear more strained. For example, Olbermann pointed to the use of "isolated cases of abuse to portray ACORN as a collection of criminally minded African-Americans, with the president as ACORN's poster child." However, Republican attacks on ACORN go back at least to the 2004 election and have always been tied more to calculations of electoral advantage than to clear-cut racism."
"It is sickening, but it is just a sampling," Olbermann commented after noting several recent incidents. "And it shares the same obvious under-current. "

read up!KO by KO! On Limbaugh; "The nation's a$$hole would know about the nation's hemorrhoid"

[Conan71]

The role of stopping this belongs to all civilized and decent Americans who refuse to go along with the hate mantra. The leadership of foreign owned media conglomerates and the GOP leaders fuel the fire by remaining silent over these overt racist remarks. THAT DIRTY PIG LIMBAUGH IS ANTI-AMERICAN AS YOU CAN GET.

Olbermann: 37 racist incidents prove Carter is right

Olberdoosh needs to get in line then to drop the hate mantras.  I hold him every bit as accountable for fanning the flames.

[RecycleMichael]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090917/pl_politico/27282

Beck vs. Limbaugh         
Michael Calderone Michael Calderone – Thu Sep 17, 6:13 pm ET


GOP media strategist Mark McKinnon thinks there are two people in the world who fear Glenn Beck — even if "neither will admit it."

The first is Barack Obama. The second is Rush Limbaugh.

Beck is on a huge roll. Over the last month, the right-wing Fox News talker has claimed the scalp of the president's green jobs czar; motivated thousands of conservatives to turn out for town hall meetings and a Sept. 12 march on Washington; pummeled Democrats over ACORN and Obama's czars; and landed himself a spot on the cover of Time magazine. "Beck is the man of the moment," says the Weekly Standard's Michael Goldfarb. "Everybody in town is watching him, waiting to see what he'll do next, who he'll take down next."

But if Beck is the man of the moment, where does that leave Rush? In an e-mail to POLITICO, Limbaugh said any attempt to compare him with Beck in terms of Washington influence rests on a "flawed premise." "I do not, and never have, measured my success in ways you describe, such as 'impact' in Washington," Limbaugh said. "I am a broadcaster and judge my success by those standards."

By those standards, the slimmed-down Limbaugh is still large and in charge. He reaches a much bigger radio audience, with somewhere between 15 and 30 million listeners on more than 600 stations around the country. He's ranked No. 1 on the "Heavy Hundred" list put out by the industry magazine Talkers (Beck is fifth); he tops Mediaite's power grid of radio hosts; and this week, The Atlantic installed Limbaugh and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman atop its list of "the most influential commentators in the nation."

Back in April - when Time put Limbaugh on its annual list of the 100 most influential people of the world - Beck was called on to write the tribute. He wrote that Limbaugh was "on another level" and "attracts more listeners with his voice than the rest of us could ever imagine." That may still be the case, but Beck's power has grown exponentially since then.

Newsmax president Christopher Ruddy, a conservative journalist who played a role in dredging up scandals during the Clinton years, said that right now, Beck is "the No. 1 populist, conservative voice in the media." "Glenn's emergence reminds me of Rush's emergence in the early '90s," said conservative radio host Mike Gallagher. "People have asked me, 'Who's the next Rush,' because Rush is the gold standard."

The answer, says Gallagher, "seems to be Glenn." While Limbaugh once had a television show — produced by Roger Ailes, now Fox News president — he never enjoyed half the success in that medium that Beck has now. Beck's nightly show on Fox News completely dominates the competition, drawing more than a million viewers more than any other prime-time show on MSNBC or CNN.

And Beck is using the power of his show in ways that Limbaugh never has.

"Beck is playing more of a rallying role than Limbaugh has or is," said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. "Rush is more broad-brush, longer-range in approach, and Beck's gotten specific," Norquist added. "Here's an appointee. Here's the czars." In the days before last weekend's conservative march on Washington, Beck flogged it repeatedly. He became such a part of the story that, as CNN correspondent Lisa Desjardins tried to report live from the event, protesters drowned her out with chants of "Glenn Beck! Glenn Beck!" Limbaugh's role in promoting the protest? He said it's not his thing.

"I don't rally people and haven't since the first year of my radio show," he wrote to POLITICO. "At that time, all local talk hosts were attempting to prove their worth by getting people to cut up gasoline credit cards, call Washington, etc. I thought it was cheap and disingenuous. The few times I did, early on, suggest people call Washington, the reaction to it from the media was that the response was not genuine (I shut down the House switchboard) because people only did what they did because 'Limbaugh told them to.'"

Limbaugh hasn't abandoned the call to action entirely; last year, he launched "Operation Chaos," urging his listeners to register as Democrats and vote for Hillary Clinton in Democratic presidential primaries to prolong the nominating process and weaken Obama. But now he suggests that conservatives don't need any egging on – and he seemed to downplay Beck's role in goosing the turnout for last weekend's march.

"The rally Saturday was special and important precisely because there was not a single, charismatic leader behind it," he said. "I never mentioned it, on purpose. People are rising up from genuine passion and concern, they are NOT being whipped into a frenzy. This is REAL and not inspired by anyone. This outpouring has been effervescing for years and Obama has brought it all to the boiling point. PEOPLE DO NOT NEED TO BE TOLD. They are living it."

If Limbaugh is suggesting that Beck's influence is overstated, he's not the only one. Radio host Mark Levin, whose book "Liberty & Tyranny" just surpassed 1 million sales this week, laughed off the suggestion that Beck may be eclipsing Limbaugh as the voice of the right.

"Are you kidding?" Levin said in an e-mail. "Comparing Rush Limbaugh to Glenn Beck is like comparing George Washington to George Jefferson. Beck can be very entertaining and even informative, but he is neither the face nor the voice of the conservative movement. He is one of many."

And while Ruddy says that Beck is the No. 1 conservative populist now, he's quick to say that doesn't mean Limbaugh is No. 2. "The rise of Beck doesn't diminish Rush or [Sean] Hannity," Ruddy said, "but he seems to be adding a new subset, a new group of people ... more of the populist, Ross Perot-type voter."

The opposition has clearly taken note. Six months ago, Democratic Party leaders made a concerted effort to portray Limbaugh as the de facto leader of the Republican Party. This week, the Democratic National Committee accused Republicans of "carrying out the marching orders of Glenn Beck and other right wing propagandists," and both People for the American Way and the Center for American Progress Action Fund sent out fundraising appeals invoking Beck's name.

[rwarn17588]

I've read a few trade mags in recent months, and they concur that talk radio has become crazier simply because ad revenues have cratered during the recession and that programmers, in response, are telling their hosts to become more outrageous in an effort to attract listeners.

Sometimes it's not hate or insanity that drives talk-radio hosts, but money -- or the lack thereof.

[Cats Cats Cats]

I've read a few trade mags in recent months, and they concur that talk radio has become crazier simply because ad revenues have cratered during the recession and that programmers, in response, are telling their hosts to become more outrageous in an effort to attract listeners.

Sometimes it's not hate or insanity that drives talk-radio hosts, but money -- or the lack thereof.

LOL, too bad they won't just quit working like everybody keeps saying they will because their taxes will go up.  Also, Why they want to make more money they will just pay more taxes.