A Special Kind Of Hate Media

[custosnox]

Prove that! good luck cs....

Prove what? That I believe you are just as racist as those that screem their intolerance?

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Prove what? That I believe you are just as racist as those that screem their intolerance?

Prove from my posts anything racist....you can't....because there's not a racist bone in my body....

That strategy don't work on me....

[Conan71]

President Obama is missing a fantastic leadership opportunity.  Sitting a white cop and black college professor down for a beer hasn't solved anything, obviously.  How can so many of you be oblivious to the need for our elected leader to tell those who fan the flames of racism by perpetrating claims that opposition to the administration's policies is racism?

Whatever response to this you claim he has made has been tepid at best.  You want leaders from the right to step in and solve the problem and you are not willing to hold our elected commander and chief to the same standard.  The buck stops with the Prez, remember?

[Conan71]

Prove from my posts anything racist....you can't....because there's not a racist bone in my body....

That strategy don't work on me....

Hateful WHITE people.  When you put a color with that sort of rhetoric, it becomes quite racist.  You've got a severe prejudice against white Chrisitians.

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Hateful WHITE people.  When you put a color with that sort of rhetoric, it becomes quite racist.  You've got a severe prejudice against white Chrisitians.

You lie! Only Christians who meddle in government. There's no prejudiced opinion of people who are spiritual. That's ridiculous.

POTUS OBAMA has attempted to still the waters and will continue to....

But he too is powerless against the hate mentality... white america is power and therefore it is not racist to use this description, there are no white victims based on race.

[nathanm]

tell those who fan the flames of racism by perpetrating claims that opposition to the administration's policies is racism?

Nobody is saying that everybody who opposes the President's policies are racist or that all opposition is racism. Nice straw man, though.

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Roy Blunt, GOP big boy, delivers racism:Roy Blunt (R-MO) Suggests Obama & Democrats Are Like Monkeys on a Golf Course
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/9/19/11460/8467/
"Tony Perkins introduces Blunt.  Perkins paid $82,500 to buy a phone banking list from former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke.Then, in 2002, Perkins spoke at a fundraiser for the Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a national white supremacist group. The CofCC "Statement of Principals" states that "We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind, to promote non-white races over the European-American people through so-called 'affirmative action' and similar measures, to destroy or denigrate the European-American heritage, including the heritage of the Southern people, and to force the integration of the races."





UGLY!

[custosnox]

But he too is powerless against the hate mentality... white america is power and therefore it is not racist to use this description, there are no white victims based on race.

And there you are soooo wrong.  I am white, and yes, I have been a "victim" of racism on several occasions.  However, when you make judgment based on an ethnic background, no matter what color they are, it is racism.  When you bring race into an issue when there is no grounds for such, other then the fact that both sides of the issue are of differant backgrounds, then that too is racism.  You remind me of so many of the people that when they are getting arrested they start screaming "It's because I'm black".  No, it's because you broke the law.  I get so sick of hearing this "I've been held back by the white man".  When it comes right down to it, whites are starting to become those that are held back by their race.  After all, wouldn't it be considered racism if an organization was created to help young, white americans get into college?  When you wield race as the a weapon in almost every confrontation that you enter, then you sir are a practicing racist.

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And there you are soooo wrong.  I am white, and yes, I have been a "victim" of racism on several occasions.  However, when you make judgment based on an ethnic background, no matter what color they are, it is racism.  When you bring race into an issue when there is no grounds for such, other then the fact that both sides of the issue are of differant backgrounds, then that too is racism.  You remind me of so many of the people that when they are getting arrested they start screaming "It's because I'm black".  No, it's because you broke the law.  I get so sick of hearing this "I've been held back by the white man".  When it comes right down to it, whites are starting to become those that are held back by their race.  After all, wouldn't it be considered racism if an organization was created to help young, white americans get into college?  When you wield race as the a weapon in almost every confrontation that you enter, then you sir are a practicing racist.

yes, I have been a "victim" of racism on several occasions Please describe these events...

"I've been held back by the white man" .....historical fact.

"After all, wouldn't it be considered racism if an organization was created to help young, white americans get into college? " Besides being absurd, how is this racism?

"When you wield race as the a weapon in almost every confrontation that you enter, then you sir are a practicing racist." That's a belligerent and incorrect assertion.

The right thrives on whining about how mistreated they are. Then they grumble if anyone points out that some groups and individuals are mistreated because that's "favoritism." They need to grow the balls they're always accusing others of not having.

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OP-ED COLUMNIST
The Scourge Persists


By BOB HERBERT
Published: September 18, 2009
Did we really need Jimmy Carter to tell us that racism is one of the driving forces behind the relentless and often scurrilous attacks on President Obama? We didn't know that? As John McEnroe might say, "You can't be serious."

"There is an inherent feeling many in this country that an African-American should not be president," said Mr. Carter. I guess he was aiming his remarks at those who contended when Mr. Obama was elected that we had achieved some Pollyannaish postracial society. But it's hard to imagine, after all the madness and vitriol of the past few months, that anyone still believes that.

For many white Americans, Barack Obama is nothing more than that black guy in the White House, and they want him out of there. (Mr. Carter knows a little something about kowtowing to that crowd. During his presidential campaign in 1976, he blithely let it be known that he had no problem with residents "trying to maintain the ethnic purity of their neighborhoods," and he tossed around ugly terms like "black intrusion" and "alien groups." He later apologized.)

More than three decades later we have Sherri Goforth, an aide to a Republican state senator in Tennessee sending out a mass e-mail of a cartoon showing dignified portraits of the first 43 presidents, and then representing the 44th — President Obama — as a spook, a cartoonish pair of white eyes against a black background.

When a gorilla escaped from a zoo in Columbia, S.C., a longtime Republican activist, Rusty DePass, described it on his Facebook page as one of Michelle Obama's ancestors.

Among the posters at last weekend's gathering of conservative protesters in Washington was one that said, "The zoo has an African lion and the White House has a lyin' African."

These are bits and pieces of an increasingly unrestrained manifestation of racism directed toward Mr. Obama that is being fed by hate-mongers on talk radio and is widely tolerated, if not encouraged, by Republican Party leaders. It's disgusting, and it's dangerous. But it's the same old filthy racism that has been there all along and that has been exploited by the G.O.P. since the 1960s.

I have no patience with those who want to pretend that racism is not an out-and-out big deal in the United States, as it always has been. We may have made progress, and we may have a black president, but the scourge is still with us. And if you needed Jimmy Carter to remind you of that, then you've been wandering around with your eyes closed.

Glenn Beck, one of the moronic maestros of right-wing radio and TV, assures us that President Obama "has a deep-seated hatred for white people." Some years ago, as the watchdog group Media Matters for America points out on its Web site, Beck said he'd like to beat Representative Charles Rangel "to death with a shovel."

There is nothing new about this racist rhetoric. Back in the 1970s Rush Limbaugh told a black caller: "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."

But the fact that a black man is now in the White House has so unsettled much of white America that the lid is coming off the racism that had been simmering at dangerously high temperatures all along. Eric Boehlert, a senior fellow with Media Matters, said, "If someone had told me in February that there would be mainstream allegations that Obama was a racist and a fascist and a communist and a Nazi, I wouldn't have believed it."

Republicans have been openly feeding off of race hatred since the days of Dick Nixon. Today's conservative activists are carrying that banner proudly. What does anybody think is going on when, as Anderson Cooper pointed out on CNN, one of the leaders of the so-called tea party movement, Mark Williams, refers to the president of the United States as an Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug, and a racist in chief.

After all these years of race-baiting and stirring the pot of hatred for political gain, it's too much to ask the leaders of the Republican Party to step forward and denounce this spreading stain of reprehensible conduct. Republicans are trying to ride that dependable steed of bigotry back to power.

But it's time for other Americans, of whatever persuasion, to take a stand, to say we're better than this. They should do it because it's right. But also because we've seen so many times what can happen when this garbage gets out of control.

Think about the Oklahoma City bombing, and the assassinations of King and the Kennedys. On Nov. 22, 1963, as they were preparing to fly to Dallas, a hotbed of political insanity, President Kennedy said to Mrs. Kennedy: "We're heading into nut country today."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/19/opinion/19herbert.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

Hmmm....looks familiar! Get it?

[custosnox]

yes, I have been a "victim" of racism on several occasions Please describe these events...
hmmm... Let's see here, most recently I worked at an Indian Casino.  If you think I got treated as an equal there, then you need to get your head examined.  Outside of that, the most significant was when I was head of a department and I had a black man that worked under me.  Helped the guy out, gave him rides, things like that to help him out when he needed it.  At one point I had sung a line to a song that has historical significance to the black community (I did not know the history of the song at the time, just knew the line and always liked it), and he immediatly labeled me as being racist because of this.  He took it to HR.  In the end, I was fired when he started threatening to sue.

"I've been held back by the white man" .....historical fact.
Historical fact, every ethinic group  in the history of mankind has been  oppressed by another at some point in time.  However, this is called history for a reason.  Because blacks were held down before, a black mans failures today doesn't translate automatically to the same thing today.

"After all, wouldn't it be considered racism if an organization was created to help young, white americans get into college? " Besides being absurd, how is this racism?
When you exclude another based on nothing other then their race, this is racism.

"When you wield race as the a weapon in almost every confrontation that you enter, then you sir are a practicing racist." That's a belligerent and incorrect assertion.
Do you not even pay attention to your own posts?

The right thrives on whining about how mistreated they are. Then they grumble if anyone points out that some groups and individuals are mistreated because that's "favoritism." They need to grow the balls they're always accusing others of not having.
Funny, I've heard the same thing about the left many times before.

[USRufnex]

President Obama is missing a fantastic leadership opportunity.  Sitting a white cop and black college professor down for a beer hasn't solved anything, obviously.  How can so many of you be oblivious to the need for our elected leader to tell those who fan the flames of racism by perpetrating claims that opposition to the administration's policies is racism?

Whatever response to this you claim he has made has been tepid at best.  You want leaders from the right to step in and solve the problem and you are not willing to hold our elected commander and chief to the same standard.  The buck stops with the Prez, remember?

Oh, for crying out loud... that's a self-aggrandizing lie.
Jimmy Carter's fanning the flames of racism?... give me a break.
You're wanting Obama to call out Jimmy Carter as a reverse racist?
What a buncha utter bullcrap. 
Thanks for playing the white victim card again.

Sorry, but if this doesn't satisfy you.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/obama-race-speech-read-th_n_92077.html

......then NOTHING WILL.  I am convinced that nothing Obama says about race will ever satisfy the southern conservative equivocators who don't seem to know their own history.

William F. Buckley must be rolling over in his grave to see how the current crop of Republicans kow-tow to anti-intellectual "conservatives" who aren't really conservatives at all.  Where is the next William F. Buckley who will put these flat-earth lunatics in their place? 

Jimmy Carter has the right to express his opinions.
I don't have to agree with them.
But I can certainly understand where they come from.
I want Carter to be wrong.  I hope Carter is wrong.

But Barack Obama would be casting his pearls before swine if he weighed-in again with a major speech on the subject of race.... I've seen it before, and I'd rather he  just do his job and let the crazies be the crazies.... and let Fox and Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh continue to propagandize racial issues to suit their political agenda..... I mean, if Obama made another super-duper speech about race, what do you think the Republicans and their lackeys at Fox News would do?

I'll tell you what they'd do.  They'd accuse him of playing politics with race. 
It's a lose-lose catch-22.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/15/obama_kanye_west_is_a_jackass.html

The right and their cronies pushed the opinion that Michelle Obama hates America..... yet none of those same self-proclaimed patriots seemed to get hot and bothered by Todd Palin's secessionist views.   

What I see from the right wingers is not the "American exceptionalism" I can respect and even agree with from time to time-- it's "Southern exceptionalism"..... and in a worst case scenario, it's "Confederate exceptionalism," the kind of holier-than-thou regional patriotism that threatens gun violence and secession if it doesn't get its way.  The kind of exceptionalism that has little use for American democracy and patriotic egalitarianism.

[nathanm]

You remind me of so many of the people that when they are getting arrested they start screaming "It's because I'm black".  No, it's because you broke the law.

Yet somehow, statistically speaking blacks get arrested more often than whites of a similar socioeconomic background and get disproportionately long sentences. The criminal justice system in this country is most certainly racist, whether by design or by accident. While these days its not generally overt racism, it's the insidious sort that lies in the subconscious mind, it still exists.

I would be willing to bet that most people on this board have racist thoughts, whether consciously or unconsciously. Most people in society do. I do. I don't discriminate against black people. I have had black friends, but the thing is I notice they are black. I think of them differently. Not in a bad way, at least consciously, but I do notice the difference in skin color and sometimes, much to my shame, I even react differently internally when I encounter black people in an unfamiliar situation than I would to a white person.

I think it's funny how people want to call helping minorities overcome the overt oppression that was so pervasive in this country until very recently reverse racism. That's not racist, it's just stupid.

[custosnox]

Yet somehow, statistically speaking blacks get arrested more often than whites of a similar socioeconomic background and get disproportionately long sentences. The criminal justice system in this country is most certainly racist, whether by design or by accident. While these days its not generally overt racism, it's the insidious sort that lies in the subconscious mind, it still exists.

I would be willing to bet that most people on this board have racist thoughts, whether consciously or unconsciously. Most people in society do. I do. I don't discriminate against black people. I have had black friends, but the thing is I notice they are black. I think of them differently. Not in a bad way, at least consciously, but I do notice the difference in skin color and sometimes, much to my shame, I even react differently internally when I encounter black people in an unfamiliar situation than I would to a white person.

I think it's funny how people want to call helping minorities overcome the overt oppression that was so pervasive in this country until very recently reverse racism. That's not racist, it's just stupid.

my point is that there seems to be many out there that blame the fact that something is happening to them on the fact of their ethnic standing, and not be willing to take responsibility for their own actions.  It is the same mindset of those that as soon as there is a conflict of any level between someone that is white, and someone that is of a minority, it is automatically viewed as being about race.  The views that perpetuate racism are being enspoused by both sides, but only one is generally seen as such.

[USRufnex]

Obama's best soundbite this morning:

All this talk about race is:  "Catnip to the Media"

Now I'm watching Peggy Noonan accuse the Prez of being "boorish" for appearing in the media trying to counteract unreasonable talking heads by being.... wait for it.... reasonable -- funny contrast -- did she ever say anything about her old boss Ronald Reagan being "boorish" back when he used the bully pulpit of the presidency on a regular basis?..... This morning, Peggy Noonan decided to be a partisan hypocrite.