Tulsa State Fair -

[zstyles]

So I didn't see a thread about this..but wanted to know. What are you biggest complaints about the state fair this year. I would love to hear from people that actually went this year(and not 20 years ago)....here are a few of mine:

No handicapped parking. We asked they had $10.00 parking where bells was and nothing around the fairgrounds.

Smoking in lines! WHAT IS UP PEOPLE! Your standing at a kiddie ride with kids all around you..WALK AWAY AND SMOKE SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOT AROUND 20 KIDS UNDER 7 in LINE!!!! MORONS!!

Greasy smelly carnies...(had to be expected though)

Ghetto Fabulous Lot attendants....how about those F bombs while you walk by two homies talking about last night at the club as loud as they can...nice.

Other than that...I wont be going back multiple times this year and might go to another fair next year..its just a carnival now that bells is gone...lame

[Conan71]

So I didn't see a thread about this..but wanted to know. What are you biggest complaints about the state fair this year. I would love to hear from people that actually went this year(and not 20 years ago)....here are a few of mine:

No handicapped parking. We asked they had $10.00 parking where bells was and nothing around the fairgrounds.

Smoking in lines! WHAT IS UP PEOPLE! Your standing at a kiddie ride with kids all around you..WALK AWAY AND SMOKE SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOT AROUND 20 KIDS UNDER 7 in LINE!!!! MORONS!!

Greasy smelly carnies...(had to be expected though)

Ghetto Fabulous Lot attendants....how about those F bombs while you walk by two homies talking about last night at the club as loud as they can...nice.

Other than that...I wont be going back multiple times this year and might go to another fair next year..its just a carnival now that bells is gone...lame

Same smile different year, man.

Let's talk about the most innovative new food on a stick or best attraction instead of the obvious negatives which have been at the fair for oh, 80 years or so.

[RecycleMichael]

Maybe the fair is not for some people.

[Townsend]

Maybe if they'd change the no bid contract policy they've got with the Murphy Brothers.  

The quality of the product attracts the quality of the clientele and vice versa.

edited to say - Good point RM, it's not for me anymore.  Part my age and part the ick factor I got every year.  Now that there's peopleofwalmart.com I get my fill of the last reason there was to go.

[cannon_fodder]

Haven't gone yet this year . . .

But I go for (in no particular order):

1) people watching

2) fair food (double entendre intended)

3) The expo exhibits

4) the livestock exhibits

5) Made in Oklahoma pavilion

6) Kids science/art center

I'd be perfectly content to go and not even go on a ride or chuck a dart at the midway, precisely because of the comments you made.  But there is plenty else to enjoy at the fair.  Other than the "no handicap parking" complaint, all your complaints have existed at fairs for at least 25 years (probably forever).

Though, I will take this opportunity to agree on the no-bid Murphy's contract, my disappointment at the loss of Bell's, my agreement that there are some serious scary people there (someone make a fair Bingo card), AND my loathing of the "not just a parking lot" parking lot.

[Conan71]

Wait, I call BS on no handicapped parking. I'm near certain there's a bunch of spaces out by the Golden Driller in front of QT center and off in either direction from the main entrance.

[zstyles]

Wait, I call BS on no handicapped parking. I'm near certain there's a bunch of spaces out by the Golden Driller in front of QT center and off in either direction from the main entrance.

Agreed I think that there was in the normal everyday parking lots that are year round I think there might have been 10 or so...but the Bell's parking lot had none, same for the Pavillion...we asked two lot homies and they said..nope no handicapped parking around here...sigh.....overall we enjoyed our fried food intake for the next years and the made in Oklahoma building which was much nicer this year for some reason..but the new buildings still don't have that "good old feeling" the older buildings had years back....

[Conan71]

Brings up the next question.  If someone is going to be wandering around the acres and acres of the fair anyhow, what difference would handicapped parking make?  Just sayin'...

[Hoss]

Brings up the next question.  If someone is going to be wandering around the acres and acres of the fair anyhow, what difference would handicapped parking make?  Just sayin'...

Being someone who takes care of someone who is handicapped, I can tell you that even though you may be 'wandering around the acres', you may be doing it on a wheelchair or motorized wheelchair.  Alot of the parking spaces provides extra room to get out of a vehicle on either side of it, as opposed to a lot of idiot Oklahoma drivers who like to see if they can wedge their vehicles in as tight a space as possible.

For me, it's not so much about being close to the venue as it is about having that extra room to get my mother in and out of the car without worrying about banging someone's door or them banging mine.

Just sayin....

[brianh]

I would think it is because handicapped parking is wider, so that like someone in a wheel chair could at least get out of their vehicle to go inside the fair.  I guess they could get dropped off at the front gate though. Guy in wheelchair needs to enjoy his beer battered corn on the cob and raisenette imbued pig chitlins too, not to mention the duck races.

[sgrizzle]

I would think it is because handicapped parking is wider, so that like someone in a wheel chair could at least get out of their vehicle to go inside the fair.  I guess they could get dropped off at the front gate though. Guy in wheelchair needs to enjoy his beer battered corn on the cob and raisenette imbued pig chitlins too, not to mention the duck races.

I believe handicap spots are the same size as regular spots unless the owner decides to make a larger "side door accessible" spot.

[Hoss]

I believe handicap spots are the same size as regular spots unless the owner decides to make a larger "side door accessible" spot.

They are the same size except for, as you've described, larger clearance sizes on either side (sometimes it is just one side) to make it easier for people with wheelchairs that can still drive (I know at least one where I work) to get themselves in and out of their vehicle.

[sgrizzle]

They are the same size except for, as you've described, larger clearance sizes on either side (sometimes it is just one side) to make it easier for people with wheelchairs that can still drive (I know at least one where I work) to get themselves in and out of their vehicle.

I'm saying the clearance is optional.

For example, we just added several handicap spots by painting the symbol in the middle. No side clearance, no widening.

[Townsend]

I'm saying the clearance is optional.

For example, we just added several handicap spots by painting the symbol in the middle. No side clearance, no widening.

I've been told you have to have some sort of standing sign denoting the space as handicapped parking.  Is that true?

[Conan71]

Being someone who takes care of someone who is handicapped, I can tell you that even though you may be 'wandering around the acres', you may be doing it on a wheelchair or motorized wheelchair.  Alot of the parking spaces provides extra room to get out of a vehicle on either side of it, as opposed to a lot of idiot Oklahoma drivers who like to see if they can wedge their vehicles in as tight a space as possible.

For me, it's not so much about being close to the venue as it is about having that extra room to get my mother in and out of the car without worrying about banging someone's door or them banging mine.

Just sayin....

BTW- my hat is off to you Hoss for being an attentive son.  You are a good man.