Tulsa will burn trash again

[Conan71]

Thanks. 

Our trash hauler would haul it for $10 but we had to break the CRT, not something I was looking forward to doing and then have them not take it for some reason.

Cover your eyes Recyclemichael:

Oh, but the thought of dropping it off the roof or blasting it with a 12 gauge sure does sound cool. 

[Hoss]

Cover your eyes Recyclemichael:

Oh, but the thought of dropping it off the roof or blasting it with a 12 gauge sure does sound cool. 

Back in the late eighties after I graduated HS and got my first apartment, I had some friends from Spartan that liked to 'party' a little much.

One night we tried to deep six an old TV in the Marina Apartment Lake.

Needless to say, those tubes are quite buoyant.

That is, until one of us (yours truly) waded out with an aluminum baseball bat and 'relieved the buoyancy'.

[sauerkraut]

Try again and do some research before making claims.  Power consumption depends on size (many people have a 40"+ tv now, which will draw more power then your old 27" CRT), type (Plasma, which is not in wide use, tends to be less energy efficent then LCD) and other factors. 

Here is a quick article on the subject just in case you decide you want to actually educate yourself.

http://www.economicallysound.com/tvs_as_energy_hogs.html

The bottom line is according to your article is a CRT uses 3.4 watts per screen inch and Plasma uses 9.4 watts per screen inch. The LCD is about equal to a CRT.

[Conan71]

I'm having lunch today with some former co-workers in a previous life.  I just noticed one of them has this business now:

http://www.naturalevolution.com/main.htm

Electronics recycling.  Between Yale & Sheridan on 13th St.

[dbacks fan]

Back in the late eighties after I graduated HS and got my first apartment, I had some friends from Spartan that liked to 'party' a little much.

One night we tried to deep six an old TV in the Marina Apartment Lake.

Needless to say, those tubes are quite buoyant.

That is, until one of us (yours truly) waded out with an aluminum baseball bat and 'relieved the buoyancy'.

I went to Spartan in the late 80's and had some friends from Spartan that lived at the Marina. One of them drove his girlfriends car into the lake on the south east side of the complex the winter of 88/89.

[RecycleMichael]

I'm having lunch today with some former co-workers in a previous life.  I just noticed one of them has this business now:

http://www.naturalevolution.com/main.htm

Electronics recycling.  Between Yale & Sheridan on 13th St.

I highly recommend them. They get my stuff.

[Conan71]

I went to Spartan in the late 80's and had some friends from Spartan that lived at the Marina. One of them drove his girlfriends car into the lake on the south east side of the complex the winter of 88/89.

He wasn't trying to sink a TV set was he?

[dbacks fan]

He wasn't trying to sink a TV set was he?

No, he was from Kuwait, and had never driven in the snow. Went around a corner too fast and went nose first into the lake. Then he refused pay for the damaged fence and her car because it wasn't his fault.

[Hoss]

I went to Spartan in the late 80's and had some friends from Spartan that lived at the Marina. One of them drove his girlfriends car into the lake on the south east side of the complex the winter of 88/89.

Then it's likely I either knew of you or had met you through several people that I knew went there.  Didn't go there personally, but one of my best friends (now passed on) went there and I met a TON of people from there through him.  The one I knew the most didn't live at the Marina, but lived across the street at Pelican's Wharf.

To think that most of them now work on jetliners might be the reason I don't travel by air a lot.

[Hoss]

He wasn't trying to sink a TV set was he?

At the time, I would have been glad to drop my ride in the drink... 

[cannon_fodder]

I try to be environmentally friendly.  I have recycling bins at my house for newspaper, #1 and #2 plastic, glass (sorted), aluminum, as well as plastic sacs and magazines (taking up a considerable amount of garage space!).   I used to have bins for #5 plastic and steel . . . but I couldn't find anyone to take the #5 and had to drive to Owasso to donate my steel (which was probably counter productive).   So they now get thrown away (though I do reuse a lot of QT cups).

For batteries, I try to remember to do something with them.  I generally save them in my garage for the turn-in days . . . then forget and find them during spring cleaning and just throw them away.  Larger batteries (12v) I do save and make sure to turn in.  But admit to being awful with smaller batteries.

And in the greater scheme of things, I'm a fantastic Tulsan.  The vast majority of Tulsans don't recycle anything at all.  Cans, bottles, batteries, plastic - all right in our bottomless twice a week trash.  And it would all go to be burned (interestingly, the steel recycling rate would go up as it is a ferrous metal.  It might actually help with batteries too). 

RM, do you have a feel for what Tulsa's "recycling rate" is?

[Hoss]

The bottom line is according to your article is a CRT uses 3.4 watts per screen inch and Plasma uses 9.4 watts per screen inch. The LCD is about equal to a CRT.

So, lemme guess, instead of listening to your music on an iPod or CD player, you still listen to your old Victrola, right?

[custosnox]

The bottom line is according to your article is a CRT uses 3.4 watts per screen inch and Plasma uses 9.4 watts per screen inch. The LCD is about equal to a CRT.

That is one thing from the article.  However, it does not give numbers for LED or the newer laser tv's.  Also, I cannot attest to the accuracy of this article, I just found the first decent one on search and went with it.  The point is you made an assinine comment and didn't even bother doing any research to as to the accruacy of it.

[Wrinkle]

That is one thing from the article.  However, it does not give numbers for LED or the newer laser tv's.  Also, I cannot attest to the accuracy of this article, I just found the first decent one on search and went with it.  The point is you made an assinine comment and didn't even bother doing any research to as to the accruacy of it.

I just bought one of these Samsung 23" LED HDTV/Monitors

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/office/monitors/premium/LS23CFUKFV/ZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec

The spec notes it uses 53W at work and <2W at standby.

That's 2.3W per diagonal inch. (That's more than 30% less than your 3.4W CRT)

[Wrinkle]

Back on topic, there's no good reason to burn trash, especially at our that incinerator.

But, it's good proof positive once again that given a $200 million asset, almost anyone can produce a profit, even at low rates.

BTW, can someone tell me how the same company who bankrupted their operation is allowed to own and operate the same plant within months of default?

This entire deal stinks, along with the air around here shortly.

I haven't had to repaint my car once while it was closed either.

Let's be sure and capture a snapshot of air quality and asthma statistics while it was closed.