TMAPC Commissioner, Elizabeth Wright: Public Hearing

[inteller]

well justice prevailed today, even if it did come via an odd method.

i guess keith wont be getting a campaign headquarters donated next election cycle.

[Conan71]

well justice prevailed today, even if it did come via an odd method.

i guess keith wont be getting a campaign headquarters donated next election cycle.

Care to share what happened? It adds so much more to the conversation when people know what you are talking about Inteller.

[RecycleMichael]

Here is the Tulsa World version...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20091130_11_0_TulsaC503321

Motion to remove Tulsa County planning commissioner fails  
By KEVIN CANFIELD World Staff Writer
Published: 11/30/2009  Tulsa County commissioners did not remove planning commissioner Elizabeth Wright Monday after a motion to remove her failed for lack of a second.

County Commissioner Karen Keith had petitioned for Wright's removal from the Tulsa Metropolitan Area Planning Commission. During a meeting of the County Commission Monday morning, Keith made the motion but it failed for lack of a second. Commissioner Fred Perry abstained from the voting.

Keith's petition for Wright's removal cited the following allegations:

That Wright violated the Conflict of Interest section of the Planning Commission's policies, procedures and code of ethics. That Wright engaged in conduct that materially and adversely affects the orderly or efficient operation of the Planning Commission.

Wright was appointed to the commission in April 2008 by former District 2 County Commissioner Randi Miller. Her three-year term was scheduled to end in January 2011. Keith, a Democrat, succeeded Miller in January. Keith has said previously that she wanted to make her own appointment and that she wanted someone who would be responsive to the needs of the western and southern parts of Tulsa County. Wright, 52, lives in midtown.

Monday meeting came a week after county commissioners held a nearly two-hour public hearing on the matter. The vote was postponed a week to give county commissioners more time to consider the matter.

[Conan71]

Totally un-related question, I've always wanted to ask and it popped up here in this story.  Is there any reason Liz's age is relevant enough to print in a news story?  Other than obits, why does anyone care how old someone is in a news story?

[inteller]

copy editors with nothing to do.

[guido911]

actually I've found the accuracy to have improved in recent weeks after getting rid of some loser copy editors back in October.

Wow.

[Liz Wright]

Totally un-related question, I've always wanted to ask and it popped up here in this story.  Is there any reason Liz's age is relevant enough to print in a news story?  Other than obits, why does anyone care how old someone is in a news story?

Hi -
Trivial question ? I think along with that fabulous photo its a reminder to take better care of myself and not stay up late editing papers!

More importantly - Thanks to everyone for their support. We were all stunned, pleased and did much hoopla dancing. I will try to do a summary of the meetings by the week-end. Until then - catch the Pat Campbell show.

Liz Wright

[inteller]

when will you be on that show?  i dont normally listen to it.

[Conan71]

Hi -
Trivial question ? I think along with that fabulous photo its a reminder to take better care of myself and not stay up late editing papers!

More importantly - Thanks to everyone for their support. We were all stunned, pleased and did much hoopla dancing. I will try to do a summary of the meetings by the week-end. Until then - catch the Pat Campbell show.

Liz Wright

Love your sense of self-deprecating humor, Liz.  Glad to know there is a human on the TMAPC board and the process worked as it was supposed to in regards to you retaining your position, especially after learning more of the facts in the matter.  Please don't be a stranger on these boards, we need someone with your insight and knowledge of the inner-workings of the planning process (no matter how dysfunctional our planning processes may be).

[inteller]

yeah it is a shame that other tmapc members who are on this forum (and have been for some time) dont tell it like it is as Liz Wright has done.

[Liz Wright]

yeah it is a shame that other tmapc members who are on this forum (and have been for some time) dont tell it like it is as Liz Wright has done.

Hi - Re KFAQ - Third hour this am. Podcasts available after noon.

Sometimes 20 minutes can seem like forever - and then it zips by. In the world of planning and how it affects Tulsa there is so much one could speak to. I am barely above the average citizen when it comes to the whole picture. Some citizens have been advocating for the citizens, the neighborhoods for years and years.

Why don't people speak out? Perhaps fear, uncertainty, making a mistake, the list goes on. Sometimes in the attempts to begin dialogue how we position ourselves sets the tone. Are we really seeking input or trying to get affirmation of our perspective. As an educator with years in the classroom it was far more important to get students to wrestle with the issues rather than the issues themselves. The discussion of how decisions are made is often more informative than the decisions themselves.

As a deconstructivist educator it is important, of paramount importance to understand the paradigms which govern how we draw our conclusions. Change the paradigm and other conclusions could be drawn. I also taught kids       

[Liz Wright]

cont.

I also taught the kids to put the issues on the table. To disconnect from them and not take them personally. Of course many issues are very personal in nature. I want to make that distinction. To place them on the lab table and examine under a microscope is not a personal affront, it is merely inquiry.

It is one thing to point fingers and say "I don't like you!" when ideas clash; a much different thing to say "I don't like your ideas". My international students taught my whole class that. Americans don't like to debate - we take it far too personally - to disagree means we can't be friends. That semester we learned our disagreements made us far better peers, far better friends.

Off to meetings - take care all.
Liz

[Conan71]

And then I think some people are perfectly content to let government "happen to them" which is why they aren't more involved or they don't realize there are ways to make a difference.

[inteller]

15 minutes until tipoff....lets see if tgovonline.org can handle it.

[JustSayNo]

Ms Wright opposed Maria Barnes and showed an interest in holding public office. The Tulsa World, Maria Barnes and Karen Keith won't stand for that. After all Ms Wright isn't one of the chosen.

What planet are you from?? The idea that the TW and Maria Barnes have ANY common interest is completely laughable!  The same goes for KK and Barnes.  Unbelievable!