NEW DOWNTOWN MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT IN THE WORKS

[swake]

CVS does urban stores in other cities, with a decent grocery section. Since they are now in Tulsa, hopefully they will consider it.

I was in Dallas yesterday and the "urban" CVS there in the West End closes at 8 PM.

[TheTed]

Kansas City and St. Louis both got their first downtown full service grocery stores in decades, and both are just incredible. Very nice and lots of fresh foods.

Cosentino's in KC:


Schnucks Culinaria in St. Louis:

[DM]

CVS does urban stores in other cities, with a decent grocery section. Since they are now in Tulsa, hopefully they will consider it.

I concur. An urban CVS or Walgreen's would be great! The only convenient store is on main and they really only have food items. No headphones or drugs.

Any chance QT would design an urban store just for Tulsa since they are located here? After all, they started out as a convenient store only. They have their whole new deli line that seems to be doing well. Familiar name would work well downtown.

[sgrizzle]

I was in Dallas yesterday and the "urban" CVS there in the West End closes at 8 PM.

At least it's there.

[Conan71]

I concur. An urban CVS or Walgreen's would be great! The only convenient store is on main and they really only have food items. No headphones or drugs.

Any chance QT would design an urban store just for Tulsa since they are located here? After all, they started out as a convenient store only. They have their whole new deli line that seems to be doing well. Familiar name would work well downtown.

Good quandry.  QT has more of an emphasis on ready-to-eat foods whereas Walgreen's or Drug Warehouse (I don't frequent CVS, so can't say) has a fair selection of staple items in addition to ready-to-eat, including boxed foods, canned foods, and even spices.

I hope Will talks to the QT folks and the US Drug, CVS, or Walgreen folks, that could be a good addition, but they will need the population numbers to justify opening a store in the area, and you can bet they've got a pretty sharp calculator.

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

Any chance QT would design an urban store just for Tulsa since they are located here? After all, they started out as a convenient store only. They have their whole new deli line that seems to be doing well. Familiar name would work well downtown.

I sent an e-mail to QT and Kum and Go not too long ago requesting an urban location to server Blue Dome and the core business district.  QT sent back one of their generic thank you notes but Kum and Go replied with a real person that said they would have the appropriate department research it.  I like Kum and Go.  Their brand new location in BA at 61st and Lynn Lane is really well done.

I think QT considers its 15th and Denver store to cover all of downtown but it is too far from Brady, Blue Dome, and the core business districts to be useful.  I never go there because it is too far to walk and not on the way home.

In my e-mails I mentioned that I would like to see the building come up to the sidewalk with entrances for foot traffic and have the gas pumps on the side of the building with a door on that side for auto traffic.

[dbacks fan]

Quik Trip had a store at 4th and Main where the Quik Print is. It opened in the mid 70's, and then became something else in mid to late 80's. May's Drug had two different locations on main, one next to the Renberg's building and before that it was across from the Arvest building in the Joyce Building. You actually went down the stairs on the north side of the building to go into the store, this was back in late 90 early 91.

[godboko71]

I might suggest "Engineered Stone" or "Solid surface" countertops for the kitchens, both are easier to maintain and resist staining and since they are rentals it could save allot of money long term (short term its about the same as granite) in maintenance and teaching tenants how to care for them.

On a related note as part of any welcome kit for new tenets instead of a welcome mate include a cutting board it doesn't have to be high end but it gets a point across makes people feel more welcome without having to talk to everyone like they are stupid. It is  one of the most forgotten peaces of kitchen equipment and will save your countertops from lots of people who just don't know better. 

[TheLofts@120]

It's been a while but we have been busy working on these conceptuals and finalizing things to move this project forward.  Below is a conceptual floorplan layout of the residential floors.  We will likely keep the unit numbers, layout but may work on the interior space and layouts of baths and kitchens. 

Based on this, we will have approximately 70 units total with ground floor commercial and second floor office space.  This is of course subject to change as we progress forward.

Your input would be great appreciated. 

[OurTulsa]

Do Units 5 -8 not have windows?

I do like how in every case you've attempted to provide some division between what could be a sleeping and living area.

If those are indeed windowless walls near the bottom and right of the floorplan I would flip unit 4 and put that layout in the corner with window walls on two sides.  The natural light penetration would make that unit spectacular - you'd get a view from almost every angle inside the unit.  Whereas in Unit 1 you can't really see the windows left wall windows from the living area.

[TheLofts@120]

OurTulsa...thanks for the comments.  Just to clarify, there is full glass along the bottom and right hand side of the structure, so units 5-8 will have a lot of glass. 

[sgrizzle]

I would think once you got over 1500sqft you'd want to add a half bath or something. That size unit seems appropriate for 2-4 people and they would probably appreciate multiple facilities.

Will tenants be able to put up physical walls?

[OurTulsa]

Then I'm sold on any of the corner units.  Did you say where this building is located downtown?  Got to be a nine? story buidling (or so).  I'm wondering what I'll be looking over through the glass wall!  Very cool!

In Unit 1 is there a way to flatten the built in closet/kitchen area so that more of the open area is exposed to natural light from two angles?  Though maybe you want to retain at least one plan that moves closer to a traditional apartment layout though Units 3 and 8 also do this for you.  I suppose someone could insert a door in between the spaces.

[joiei]

Kansas City and St. Louis both got their first downtown full service grocery stores in decades, and both are just incredible. Very nice and lots of fresh foods.

Cosentino's in KC:


Schnucks Culinaria in St. Louis:

The Urban Market in downtown Dallas   http://www.urbanmarketdallas.com/

[sgrizzle]

I can tell by the description which building he's talking about. Wouldn't mind being one block from my office.