Sean Penn: Still Biggest Hollywood Jacka$$

[guido911]

Spicoli speaks, wants critics to get rectal cancer


http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/03/05/sean-penn-hopes-critic-die-rectal-cancer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fentertainment+%2528Text+-+Entertainment%2529

[Rico]

So what's the deal guido...?

Is your point that a "jackass" has a heart and you don't?

[guido911]

So what's the deal guido...?

Is your point that a "jackass" has a heart and you don't?

You are a genius!  That was exactly my point.

[rwarn17588]

So what's the deal guido...?

Is your point that a "jackass" has a heart and you don't?

Badda-boomp.

[Rico]

OK.. so many now see that Haiti is and has always been an extremely poor country.
The one time I was there a "Rich" man was recognized by the fact that he wore shoes. It appears, not much has changed.

I always thought the US missed the boat by not offering aid and establishing a presence there... Many, many years ago.
It would have been an intelligent and inexpensive way to place certain things in a better arrangement after the Cuban fiasco, if nothing else.

Now... with any luck, that may get done on the aid being given by private, public, and Government players.

May well be an added employment source for the US job market. Much the way Katrina gave work to many.

Poverty, to the degree, that it exists in Haiti is not imaginable to most.

[guido911]

OK.. so many now see that Haiti is and has always been an extremely poor country.
The one time I was there a "Rich" man was recognized by the fact that he wore shoes. It appears, not much has changed.

I always thought the US missed the boat by not offering aid and establishing a presence there... Many, many years ago.
It would have been an intelligent and inexpensive way to place certain things in a better arrangement after the Cuban fiasco, if nothing else.

Now... with any luck, that may get done on the aid being given by private, public, and Government players.

May well be an added employment source for the US job market. Much the way Katrina gave work to many.

Poverty, to the degree, that it exists in Haiti is not imaginable to most.

About the only financial support I give nowadays to the "needy" goes to help the people of Haiti and Jamaica. When I was in the latter place last year, I saw the type of homes that I was told would be built with my contributions.  As for poverty, it sucks seeing it up close and personal. Saw it in inland Jamaica (cinder block homes w/ no windows, no indoor plumbing) and in the hills of Honduras (don't get me started).

[guido911]

Now Spicoli wants news folks that refer to Hugo Chavez as a "dictator" to be jailed.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/03/08/sean-penn-wants-reporters-jailed-calling-chavez-dictator/

Apparently since he was "elected" he cannot be a dictator. Anyone here know of any dictators who claim to have been legitimately elected?

[nathanm]

Now Spicoli wants news folks that refer to Hugo Chavez as a "dictator" to be jailed.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/03/08/sean-penn-wants-reporters-jailed-calling-chavez-dictator/

Apparently since he was "elected" he cannot be a dictator. Anyone here know of any dictators who claim to have been legitimately elected?

You could read it that way, or you could read it as what he really said, which was that he thinks people in positions of trust who lie to the public should be jailed. His example was indeed that Chavez has been elected repeatedly, and no legitimate election monitor has found significant fraud in any of them, despite the noise made by the media and those who are feeding them the stories about Chavez.

I don't like Chavez much, but he is the one speaking for the 80% of Venezuelans who previously had no voice in government. If he were really as bad as his critics claim, Marcel Granier would be dead or in prison, rather than merely having his station's broadcast license revoked after his support of the 2002 coup attempt.

Many people think that US Presidents have what amounts to dictatorial powers through things like the patriot act, yet we don't call them dictators, as they are legitimately elected.

[guido911]

You could read it that way, or you could read it as what he really said, which was that he thinks people in positions of trust who lie to the public should be jailed. His example was indeed that Chavez has been elected repeatedly, and no legitimate election monitor has found significant fraud in any of them, despite the noise made by the media and those who are feeding them the stories about Chavez.

I don't like Chavez much, but he is the one speaking for the 80% of Venezuelans who previously had no voice in government. If he were really as bad as his critics claim, Marcel Granier would be dead or in prison, rather than merely having his station's broadcast license revoked after his support of the 2002 coup attempt.

Many people think that US Presidents have what amounts to dictatorial powers through things like the patriot act, yet we don't call them dictators, as they are legitimately elected.

Ah yes, another lib throwing the 1st Amendment under the bus. Let's ask Bushitler what his opinion is of being called a dictator.

Oh, and Hitler was elected too.

[Gaspar]

Liberals during the previous administration slid down the slope by associating with people like Penn and Chavez.  They were grasping for anything that was the antithesis of Bush.  Many Socialists, Communists, and many Dictators fit the bill because they could share the same hatred. 

Now such appearances as Penn on Bill Maher's show force liberals to defend their reasoning. 

The defense is clumsy and philosophically ethereal at best.

Chavez is a dictator no matter how you attempt to package him.

[nathanm]

Ah yes, another lib throwing the 1st Amendment under the bus.

Even in this country, supporting a coup is against the law.

[dbacks fan]

Now Spicoli wants news folks that refer to Hugo Chavez as a "dictator" to be jailed.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/03/08/sean-penn-wants-reporters-jailed-calling-chavez-dictator/

Apparently since he was "elected" he cannot be a dictator. Anyone here know of any dictators who claim to have been legitimately elected?

Benito Mussolini

[nathanm]

Is Venezuela engaged in some war of aggression against its people's will that I'm unaware of?

[guido911]

Is Venezuela engaged in some war of aggression against its people's will that I'm unaware of?

Um, yes?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/21/record-serves-reminder-hugo-chavezs-human-rights-transgressions/

[nathanm]

Um, yes?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/21/record-serves-reminder-hugo-chavezs-human-rights-transgressions/

I wonder how many people have died at the hands of federal law enforcement in this country since 1999?

While I agree that the torture and degrading treatment is completely wrong, the rest of that list mirrors things that do happen or have happened in our own country just since 1980.

For example, we have federal oversight of union elections. Reagan busted the ATC union. Bush fired federal prosecutors whose political stance was not right wing enough. The Bush FBI subjected political opponents to harassment and groundless investigations. Reagan went on about "welfare queens" as a means to cut public support to poor people, who are generally strong Democratic supporters.

I continue down most of the list, and even provide links, but there's little point. You believe everything that is written on that page and seem to think it's OK when we do it but not OK when someone you don't like does it, so I'm probably just wasting energy typing. I'll stop now.

Edited to add: Also, my sentence was unclear. Mussolini and Hitler, they waged foreign wars of aggression. They massacred a significant fraction of their own population. Chavez has not done that, at least as of yet.