old city hall... sell sell sell!

[sgrizzle]

I the Omega Alpha deal to rehab the buildings or is their plan to bulldoze?

[Gaspar]

I the Omega Alpha deal to rehab the buildings or is their plan to bulldoze?

Conceive of the absolute worst idea you can, and that will be the TDA's decision.

[Conan71]

There is an agenda item on the Special meeting called for Monday night to declare "the real property owned by the city of Tulsa is no longer necessary for City's business and to authorize conveyance of said property to the Tulsa Development Authority".

The meeting is at 6pm at City Hall.

So haisten the process to delay the process of getting shed of the property for good. 

[Townsend]

So haisten the process to delay the process of getting shed of the property for good. 

I think I overheard some members of the TDA chanting "4 more years".

[carltonplace]

Conceive of the absolute worst idea you can, and that will be the TDA's decision.

OK, here goes...a Wal*Mart super center built on islands in a river with branch terminal for Tulsa International to land overflow air traffic

[waterboy]

Genius! Can we include some high intensity LED lighting to give it that final touch?

[swake]

Genius! Can we include some high intensity LED lighting to give it that final touch?

Will it be surrounded by ill-tempered mutated sea bass?

[carltonplace]

Will it be surrounded by ill-tempered mutated sea bass?

Is there any other kind?

[RecycleMichael]

The city council listened to the two presenters, asked questions of each of them, discussed it among themselves, and then postponed the decision. They sent it to a subcommittee.

They now want to not just give it to TDA, but want any sale to be contigent upon council approval. While this just makes it that much more difficult for a developer, it shows the council doesn't trust TDA with this property.

[Rico]

The city council listened to the two presenters, asked questions of each of them, discussed it among themselves, and then postponed the decision. They sent it to a subcommittee.

They now want to not just give it to TDA, but want any sale to be contigent upon council approval. While this just makes it that much more difficult for a developer, it shows the council doesn't trust TDA with this property.

Well what's up with that.?   The TDA not being a pillar of trust?

[RecycleMichael]

I think the council feels a special connection with this building.

[custosnox]

The city council listened to the two presenters, asked questions of each of them, discussed it among themselves, and then postponed the decision. They sent it to a subcommittee.

They now want to not just give it to TDA, but want any sale to be contigent upon council approval. While this just makes it that much more difficult for a developer, it shows the council doesn't trust TDA with this property.

Didn't see ya there.  I got the impression as well that there are at least a few that are wanting to try to make sure that the Snyders don't get edged out on this.

The Snyders also presented a very comprehensive plan that can really get people excited.  The other presenters honestly did not seem to have a clue as to what they wanted to do with the property, only that they wanted it.

The council did show a distrust towards the TDA, particularly Henderson, Bynum and Christianson.  I would feel better with the council approval clause in this, if only because it effects the interests of the city/county with the municiple and county buildings on the plaza.

I have emailed Macy, and she is supposed to get me the presentation.  I'll post it as soon as I have it.  One of the more interesting points to it in my opinion is the extention of 5th Street to circle around infront of the proposed hotel and the convention center, as well as opening the entrance of the convention center up to a more visually reconizable entrance.

[SXSW]

Didn't see ya there.  I got the impression as well that there are at least a few that are wanting to try to make sure that the Snyders don't get edged out on this.

The Snyders also presented a very comprehensive plan that can really get people excited.  The other presenters honestly did not seem to have a clue as to what they wanted to do with the property, only that they wanted it.

The council did show a distrust towards the TDA, particularly Henderson, Bynum and Christianson.  I would feel better with the council approval clause in this, if only because it effects the interests of the city/county with the municiple and county buildings on the plaza.

I have emailed Macy, and she is supposed to get me the presentation.  I'll post it as soon as I have it.  One of the more interesting points to it in my opinion is the extention of 5th Street to circle around infront of the proposed hotel and the convention center, as well as opening the entrance of the convention center up to a more visually reconizable entrance.

That sounds great.  The building really does have a lot of potential, especially being literally adjacent to the convention center.  And if another library is built that building could be turned into additional convention/meeting room space also adjacent to the hotel. 

I realize this would happen later on down the road, but should the need for more exhibit space arise the ballroom expansion could be transformed into another exhibit hall adjacent to the others with the loading docks facing Houston and a primary entrance at the existing glass lobby on 3rd.  Then build a new larger parking garage on the surface lots west of Houston.  That then would free up that prime piece of property where the current garage sits to become ballroom space with a main entrance facing the BOK Center on 3rd.  Hopefully by then the federal government would have moved to a new building so the Page Belcher could be demolished and turned into a park/plaza surrounded by the hotel, convention center, and BOK Center.  Imagine the views from the ballrooms facing east over the park..

[custosnox]

Still haven't gotten that email, so might have to wait til tomorrow when it is supposed to be in the Tulsa World. 

[Townsend]

Is Omega Alpha's proposal requiring anything about the property or is it an "as is" like the Snyder's plan?

Will the Council be pushing the TDA to make a decision or will this be a 5 year plan?