old city hall... sell sell sell!

[fotd]

Conventions? Like the ones' at the fairgrounds where they sell swastika flags and pendants of Our commander in chief being lynched? Maybe we should see who buys the Crowne Plaza first....and to just trust someone because they redeveloped the Mayo is nothing. Hell, the Mayo has yet to prove fruitious. Blind faith on property that is commensurate to downtown Muskogee.  Convention town we will never be...'cept Ken Hagin and those type loons. Keep hoping. Just fodder for Chamber maids....You should want the Snyder's to prove their financial capabilities. Could be a recipe for disaster if you understood Sim City (build an areama and see what happens)...or was it Sem Group?

[Hoss]

Conventions? Like the ones' at the fairgrounds where they sell swastika flags and pendants of Our commander in chief being lynched? Maybe we should see who buys the Crowne Plaza first....and to just trust someone because they redeveloped the Mayo is nothing. Hell, the Mayo has yet to prove fruitious. Blind faith on property that is commensurate to downtown Muskogee.  Convention town we will never be...'cept Ken Hagin and those type loons. Keep hoping. Just fodder for Chamber maids....You should want the Snyder's to prove their financial capabilities. Could be a recipe for disaster if you understood Sim City (build an areama and see what happens)...or was it Sem Group?

Uh, last I checked, the renovation of the Mayo pretty much sums up the confidence I have in the Snyders.  The Mayo was a developer's hot potato.

I say let them have for the price offered.

[fotd]

Careful Hoss, or I will conjure up the memory of John Williams.....

[we vs us]

Conventions? Like the ones' at the fairgrounds where they sell swastika flags and pendants of Our commander in chief being lynched? Maybe we should see who buys the Crowne Plaza first....and to just trust someone because they redeveloped the Mayo is nothing. Hell, the Mayo has yet to prove fruitious. Blind faith on property that is commensurate to downtown Muskogee.  Convention town we will never be...'cept Ken Hagin and those type loons. Keep hoping. Just fodder for Chamber maids....You should want the Snyder's to prove their financial capabilities. Could be a recipe for disaster if you understood Sim City (build an areama and see what happens)...or was it Sem Group?

You are wrong here on just about every count.

[Townsend]

Due to technical problems experienced last night with the electronic posting of meeting agendas, all of today's (5/6/10) City Council meetings have been canceled, and rescheduled for Monday, May 10.
On May 10, the Council's Budget Committee meeting will be at 4 p.m., Room 411; there will be a Council meeting at 5 p.m. (Room 411); and the regular business meeting will be at 6 p.m., City Council Chambers, 2nd Floor.

This was quoted from their FB post...does that mean we'll not know the fate of the Snyder bid today?

[RecycleMichael]

Yes...

All city boards, authorities and even council meetings are being postponed. Because of the IT problem, any business done could be legally challenged as being conducted at a meeting that was not technically legally posted.

[DTowner]

I assume this is to meet Open Meetings Act requirements.

[RecycleMichael]

I assume this is to meet Open Meetings Act requirements.

Yes.

I think this is a great postponement of some big decision...The computer malfunction was probably some purposely caused inside job or was a result of a black helicoptor operation.

It is convenient that the Mayor and the Chamber are all in the nation's capitol with many witnesses.

[nathanm]

All city boards, authorities and even council meetings are being postponed. Because of the IT problem, any business done could be legally challenged as being conducted at a meeting that was not technically legally posted.

Perhaps we should take part of the IT Director's salary and put it towards introducing some redundancy to head off failures like this.

If an entity the size of the city has an outage that lasts more than five minutes, they've done something terribly wrong, barring an event like the flood some years back. (protecting against that might require more budget)

[custosnox]

http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=12442277

Tulsa Gets Second Offer For Old City Hall
Posted: May 06, 2010 6:11 PM CDT
Updated: May 06, 2010 9:52 PM CDT



TULSA, OK -- The News On 6 has learned the investment group that re-developed the North Tulsa grocery store site has made an offer for the old Tulsa City Hall.

Omega Alpha Development says its offer is more than the first offer made by the Snyder family in March, which was for $1 million.

The city council is expected Monday to approve the transfer of the Old City Hall to the Tulsa Development Authority, so they may negotiate a sale.

The building has been on the market for more than a year.

[dbacks fan]

I did a google on Omega Alpha Development and found this site http://www.omegaalphausa.com/

and after looking at this one it was linked to the KOTV and Tulsa World articles.

Interesting to say the least.

[TheArtist]

I did a google on Omega Alpha Development and found this site http://www.omegaalphausa.com/

and after looking at this one it was linked to the KOTV and Tulsa World articles.

Interesting to say the least.

Iiiiiiiii don't think that link you have there has anything to do with the Omega Alpha group thats here in Tulsa.   I thought the one here was a group of local people who had gotten together to do the Albertsons site.  And I cant imagine that company you have the link to having anything to do with Tulsa, let alone an abandoned grocery store on our north side lol. 

[custosnox]

The mention of the north-tulsa grocery store makes me wonder if it is the same guy that runs los americas.  If so then I would really have problems with that since he got the money from the city to open that store.  I also wonder about the statement that the offer was "more than" $1mil but not exactly how much

[dbacks fan]

Iiiiiiiii don't think that link you have there has anything to do with the Omega Alpha group thats here in Tulsa.   I thought the one here was a group of local people who had gotten together to do the Albertsons site.  And I cant imagine that company you have the link to having anything to do with Tulsa, let alone an abandoned grocery store on our north side lol.  

You may very well be right. Here is what happend(forgive the "Monk" reference) I put in Omega Alpha Development in the search, came across the link that I provided, when I used the back button to get back to the original google search page and scrolled down, the google link for the KOTV article was the same color as my initial search, that light magenta color, so I assumed it was related. (no assume jokes please) If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, search engines like me aren't allways right.

I thought it wierd as well that a multi national company based in Miami FL would be interseted in the old town hall as well as a vacant Albertsons in North Tulsa. So as I said I'm probably wrong.

[Conan71]

The mention of the north-tulsa grocery store makes me wonder if it is the same guy that runs los americas.  If so then I would really have problems with that since he got the money from the city to open that store.  I also wonder about the statement that the offer was "more than" $1mil but not exactly how much

No, this is the developer who built the site Albertsons was in, he's not the grocery store operator.  Here's the Tulsa World story.  Sounds like they are well-financed too and don't want any gov't financing help.  I had not detected that the Snyders were angling for that on this project:

"Tony Lombardi, managing broker for Stan Frisbie Real Estate representing the Omega Alpha confirmed the offer Friday, but would not release the amount.

The city's Economic Development Director Mike Bunney said Friday that the offer was $1.1 million for mixed-use development that includes retail, office, multi-family and a hotel.

Bunney told the Tulsa World Friday that he received the offer Thursday afternoon and had planned to first talk to the City Council.

Bunney said he will seek guidance from the council, but will recommend that the land still be conveyed to the Tulsa Development Authority and a bidding process be established.

He said there also should be a request for proposal process established to not only set development criteria for the site, but to have a fair process for selling the property.

"I believe an RFP is appropriate since I believe the councilors have spoke strongly about the city committing to placing a hotel at the site," Bunney said.

A press release from Omega Alpha president Jonathon Graber states that the former City Hall complex "is in what we think is a unique location to provide some advantages which are currently under served in the area."

Omega successfully redeveloped the old Albertson's store and fuel center at the corner of Pine Street and Peoria Avenue. The store is now the Gateway Market. "We see an opportunity to invest in the vision that a lot of Tulsans have for downtown," Graber said.

While not releasing details in the release, Graber said the concept for the former City Hall site is "broad based as opposed to strictly hospitality oriented use."

Graber wrote that Omega's principle advantage is that "we are self funded, which means that it is not necessary for us to secure outside funding for out projects or borrow money form the city after the sale to complete the development."

"We are willing to commit substantial equity to our projects," he wrote. "I believe that is a definite plus for the taxpayers in Tulsa, not to have as is so often the case, extremely indebted, over leveraged inner-city redevelopment relying mostly on taxpayer subsidized or government loans."

Graber wrote those conditions have been "a fairly disturbing trend in downtown," which does not lead to long-term sustainability."

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100507_11_0_Asecon951676