How to Protect Yourself From Obamacare

[TulsaRufnex]

That's because it was their position before Obama and the Dem's got it passed.  The Rep's just hope most people don't remember that inconvenient truth.

Chart: Comparing Health Reform Bills: Democrats and Republicans 2009, Republicans 1993

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Graphics/2010/022310-Bill-comparison.aspx

[TulsaRufnex]

He's scheduled for an appearance later this morning.

I believe the GOP leaders are scheduled as soon as they figure out the best way to say "Obama's made the supreme court okay a huge tax on the American people".

"'Obamacare' is nothing more than the largest tax increase in the history of the world,"  Rush Limbaugh

"This is the largest tax increase on the poor and the middle class in the history of this country."  Rep. Jeff Landry, R-La.

"Obama lied to the American people. Again. He said it wasn't a tax. Obama lies; freedom dies."   tweet from Sarah Palin

Senator Says Employers Should Be Able To Deny Coverage To Cancer Patients Because 'Our Nation Was Based On Freedom'
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/28/508299/ron-johnson-cancer-patients/

Drumroll...  

[heironymouspasparagus]

Chart: Comparing Health Reform Bills: Democrats and Republicans 2009, Republicans 1993

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Graphics/2010/022310-Bill-comparison.aspx

Thank you.  Most are too lazy to research and learn (and I admit, I had not seen that one) so that is good to see. 

The RWRE is against it because it just so happened to be passed during Obama's term.  But the RWRE have had even more time to pass this kind of thing and have failed miserably.  Now with a framework, perhaps other improvements can be made over time.

[Conan71]

Thank you.  Most are too lazy to research and learn (and I admit, I had not seen that one) so that is good to see. 

The RWRE is against it because it just so happened to be passed during Obama's term.  But the RWRE have had even more time to pass this kind of thing and have failed miserably.  Now with a framework, perhaps other improvements can be made over time.

I don't know that the GOP really wants any sort of HC reform.  They offer an alternative so it can appear they want to work on the problem and they can say "We offered an alternative to Hillarycare or Obamacare", but there's probably a pile in there somewhere so they know it wouldn't pass.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I don't know that the GOP really wants any sort of HC reform.  They offer an alternative so it can appear they want to work on the problem and they can say "We offered an alternative to Hillarycare or Obamacare", but there's probably a pile in there somewhere so they know it wouldn't pass.

Could be.  If they wanted to do something real, they could have dozens of times in the last couple decades.  Obstructionist 101.


Kind of like this Supreme Court ruling - anyone thinks there isn't a Robert's crapburger stuffed in there somewhere?

[nathanm]

There definitely is a burger in there. Roberts and the minority largely overturned nearly a century of jurisprudence with respect to Commerce Clause powers. Funny, since he's such a statist when it comes to the police powers.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I was thinking more about how the ruling applies to Federal leverage on the states to coerce them into doing things.  Now, only new monies involved can be used in leverage.  That will inevitably lead to more game playing...

One example - if there are changes to anti-discrimination law, as in can't discriminate based on race, age, etc... the Fed had some pretty good leverage - just cut off all funds for the topic.  Now, if sometime in the future, discrimination based on sexual orientation is added, they cannot use the entire topic budget for leverage, only the new part specifically related to the new topic.  (I know... that is awkwardly written, but best I can do in a minute...)

[Townsend]

Agency for Health Care Research and Quality ranks Oklahoma among worst health care states

http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/agency-for-health-care-research-and-quality-ranks-oklahoma-among-worst-health-care-states

A federally agency has graded Oklahoma health care and delivery services one of the worst in the nation.
The Agency for Health Care Research and Quality announced the rankings as part of a annual nationwide review of state health care.
Oklahoma received a "weak" overall for 2011 and scored a "weak" or "very weak" in 10 of the 12 categories. The state's lowest measures were home health care and heart disease.
The results were comprised from a 50-state comparison.




Commentary from Oklahoma politicians following last week's Supreme Court ruling to uphold the national health care law reflected many in the state's opposition to the legislation.

"I'm extremely disappointed and frustrated by the Supreme Court's decision to uphold the federal health care law," said Okla. Gov. Mary Fallin. "President Obama's health care policies will limit patients' health care choices, reduce the quality of health care in the United States and will cost the state of Oklahoma more than a half billion dollars in the process."

The state of Oklahoma filed a federal individual lawsuit claiming the law to be unconstitutional in 2011. Now Oklahoma must develop it's own state-run health insurance exchange by November to avoid being absorbed into the federal system.


Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/agency-for-health-care-research-and-quality-ranks-oklahoma-among-worst-health-care-states#ixzz1zrg33qx5

[AquaMan]

Her quality of leadership is certainly suspect. A competent leader would have eschewed the politics to make sure that Oklahoma was prepared in case the decision went against her politics. Now, like a child who stuck her finger in an electrical receptacle, she cries about how its the electric company's fault. We have to stop electing ideologues and start promoting competency.

[Hoss]

Her quality of leadership is certainly suspect. A competent leader would have eschewed the politics to make sure that Oklahoma was prepared in case the decision went against her politics. Now, like a child who stuck her finger in an electrical receptacle, she cries about how its the electric company's fault. We have to stop electing ideologues and start promoting competency.

Until people start expanding where they get their news to include more than just the Fox News Channel, ideologues I fear will be all we see.  There's not a public place with a TV that I've gone to in over a year that doesn't have Fox News on the instant I see the television.

[Townsend]

We have to stop electing ideologues and start promoting competency.

I think that goes against Oklahoma's lesser known state motto of "elect ideologues and stop promoting competency".

[AquaMan]

And, there's your bumper stincker!

[TulsaRufnex]

There definitely is a burger in there. Roberts and the minority largely overturned nearly a century of jurisprudence with respect to Commerce Clause powers. Funny, since he's such a statist when it comes to the police powers.

+1

[nathanm]

There's not a public place with a TV that I've gone to in over a year that doesn't have Fox News on the instant I see the television.

My bank alternates. Some days it's Fox, some days it's CNN, some days it's MSNBC, some days it's CNBC. I haven't seen Fox Business yet, but I haven't been inside in a while.

Also, Fallin is being a bigger idiot than usual. How will the law limit choice in care more than it is presently limited? I guess if you consider being free of pre-existing condition restrictions limited choice she might have a point. How can having coverage provide care of worse quality than no care at all? Nonsense. And yes, it will cost us $500 million over ten years for the Medicaid expansion and other provisions, presuming we actually participate in the Medicaid expansion. What she fails to mention is that the federal government will likely be paying ten times that. Is she really so stupid that she has a problem taking money from the blue states to help us catch up? She should be happy that her political opponents are dumb enough to give us piles of money that they can't then spend on politics.

[Conan71]

We have to stop electing ideologues and start promoting competency.

So you won't be voting to re-elect President Obama?