City/County "Cooperation" workshop

[sgrizzle]

"Mayor, are we taking over?" County Commission Chairwoman Karen Keith asked Bartlett, who was sitting behind her.

As others laughed, Bartlett quipped: "Take what you want."

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=334&articleid=20100324_11_A8_MayorD309269




Side question: Where do you find gumdrops in this day and age?

[fotd]

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=334&articleid=20100324_11_A8_MayorD309269




Side question: Where do you find gumdrops in this day and age?

Gum drops, jelly belly's  whatever....more nonsense from the liars that run our city.

How does the county negotiate with people who lie to the citizenry and to the TPD?

Integrity is something you have or don't have. There's no in between. Pass this on to the negotiators who manage your taxes and may have cost us $300,000 trying to bust the police union.

[shadows]

Ah! the American dream with the pink clouds floating across the skies.  It is beyond ones comprehension to believe the founding fathers in hiring  a lamp lighter would surely not intend for him to have someone do the job for him.

Again it is being flaunted before the taxpaying public where county chairwoman Keith, who received a majority of the vote against a longtime provider of jobs, on the stance that she as a reporter and was most familiar with writing and reporting, demands she be provided with a $90,000 ghost writer to perform the duties that was to qualify her for the job she was elected to do..

Then there is the "Lets make a survey mayor" who requires a $150,000 "Finder of free money" who's duties are to make a survey weekly why the downtown is not recapturing the area 25 years ago when small business were driven out of the downtown area to the 71's street corridor .

Behind the smoke screen is the finders of  "give-me-sector" to find how many grants are available to pay these high price salaries.

When is the next pink cloud to come over?

[Hoss]

Ah! the American dream with the pink clouds floating across the skies.  It is beyond ones comprehension to believe the founding fathers in hiring  a lamp lighter would surely not intend for him to have someone do the job for him.

Again it is being flaunted before the taxpaying public where county chairwoman Keith, who received a majority of the vote against a longtime provider of jobs, on the stance that she as a reporter and was most familiar with writing and reporting, demands she be provided with a $90,000 ghost writer to perform the duties that was to qualify her for the job she was elected to do..

Then there is the "Lets make a survey mayor" who requires a $150,000 "Finder of free money" who's duties are to make a survey weekly why the downtown is not recapturing the area 25 years ago when small business were driven out of the downtown area to the 71's street corridor .

Behind the smoke screen is the finders of  "give-me-sector" to find how many grants are available to pay these high price salaries.

When is the next pink cloud to come over?

I don't know why I do it.

I wasted 60 seconds of my life reading that.  Maybe it's in the hopes that one day you'll make a cohesive thought or point...

[Conan71]

I don't know why I do it.

I wasted 60 seconds of my life reading that.  Maybe it's in the hopes that one day you'll make a cohesive thought or point...

I still believe in the great triumvirate too...

[shadows]

I don't know why I do it.

I wasted 60 seconds of my life reading that.  Maybe it's in the hopes that one day you'll make a cohesive thought or point...

Surely this is the belated form of Tulsa county/Tulsa city combining governments where Commissioner Dick, Smith, Bell and other interest citizens, after getting the statute passed to combine governing bodies,  convened meetings throughout the city/county to combine governments.   Since the county is established by constitution and the city is chartered by state this leaves the preverbal apple to oranges match.  The city any time can revoke their state charter and the county government automatically becomes the governing body.

The statue did not meet the requirements of the Oklahoma Constitution and was struck down.   Boy we seem to have a passel of new-be's demanding a change.   It is time to post Bugs  Bunny comments on how the new-be's are at it again..

Try looking behind you at the road you already traveled 

[shadows]

As it is evident by the lack of posters on this forum that many are finding that the putting forth of ideas are only taking your time but the prevailing usage of trying to point out the ignorance of our very existence of why we are physically here, where did we come from, and where are we going when we leave this physical body seems to  escape even those considering  themselves as the elitist.

[Hoss]

As it is evident by the lack of posters on this forum that many are finding that the putting forth of ideas are only taking your time but the prevailing usage of trying to point out the ignorance of our very existence of why we are physically here, where did we come from, and where are we going when we leave this physical body seems to  escape even those considering  themselves as the elitist.

Wow, now responding to your own posts after two weeks of no replies.

Seek some treatment.  Or drink more...something.

[swake]

As it is evident by the lack of posters on this forum that many are finding that the putting forth of ideas are only taking your time but the prevailing usage of trying to point out the ignorance of our very existence of why we are physically here, where did we come from, and where are we going when we leave this physical body seems to  escape even those considering  themselves as the elitist.

[Hoss]

"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes."

[shadows]

"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes."

Assume you mean to stumble along in their shoes like they seem  to be doing because we are not intelligent enough to realize how ignorant we are going down the path that was blazed by those who came before us.

[Hoss]

Assume you mean to stumble along in their shoes like they seem  to be doing because we are not intelligent enough to realize how ignorant we are going down the path that was blazed by those who came before us.

Are you really THAT dense?  Seriously?

I have no more to say.

[shadows]

Are you really THAT dense?  Seriously?

I have no more to say.

Have you every attended one of those city/county work shops?

It is the Lords of the rings.

[Rico]

Gum drops, jelly belly's  whatever....more nonsense from the liars that run our city.

How does the county negotiate with people who lie to the citizenry and to the TPD?

Integrity is something you have or don't have. There's no in between. Pass this on to the negotiators who manage your taxes and may have cost us $300,000 trying to bust the police union.

How far does this have to go ?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100413_11_0_Svrlct155037

[fotd]

Let me say something about the county claim for waiving stormwater fees.

In every development agreement between COT and a second party, a stormwater clause specific to drainage and fees is addressed.  If there is no specific clause with regard to a fee or detention of water, then the assumption is always that a fee is assessed by the city. Often, if for instance water can be stored on the property then a fee is waived in lieu of detention. Last I looked, the Fairgrounds had no on site detention for drainage. If the agreement between the city and county did not specifically address this situation then it's obvious the county owes the city the money.

The stormwater fee was a great idea. The program for preventing flooding is a magnificent model for other cities to follow. But the administrators were hydrologists and not good managers for necessary growth. They are not capable of continuing on as civil servants in the effort to keep Tulsa beautiful. They have fumbled around and flunked when it comes to streets and future growth.

What specifically does the COT/County agreement say with regard to drainage/stormwater fee?