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Started by Testy, March 27, 2010, 12:02:23 PM

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waterboy

Thanks for reminding me why I spend less and less time on this site. ;)

Hoss

Quote from: waterboy on March 27, 2010, 01:28:32 PM
Thanks for reminding me why I spend less and less time on this site. ;)

Might be the spawn of Shadows...

waterboy

Its always the same 'ol, same 'ol, isn't it Hoss. Government? Bad. Unions? Bad. Po' folks? Dumb. Wealthy folks? Good! Employers? Saintly.

Never mind that government employees' pay is historically behind the pay scales of the private sector. Its harder to become a government employee as well and upward mobility is seldom performance oriented. They trade off $$$ for power and security. Also, nevermind that their employment is subject to funding lapses by legislators who want to curry favor with the teabaggers back home, or that many federal jobs are temporary from the very start. They may pay you quite well for a short period of time, then when the project is finished, let you go.

There has been an attempt the past few years to increase the pay commensurate with the private sector in order to stop the revolving door of well trained public service employees bolting to better paying, better potential jobs. This is the reward apparently.

Conan71

Truth hurts, eh Waterboy? 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on March 28, 2010, 11:02:18 AM
Truth hurts, eh Waterboy? 
You imply that there is but one correct way to run a country.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

shadows

Quote from: Conan71 on March 28, 2010, 11:02:18 AM
Truth hurts, eh Waterboy? 

It is well documented that those employed by government entitles not enjoy a lifestyle not obtainable by those in private industries except those private industries who are "To big to go broke" and become wards of big government.  The idea that only in big uncontrollable government's are the true representatives of the people has lead throughout history, lead to rebellion such as the French citizens revolt.

The present decline of our government has been reduced to unsupervised employees who make their own rules, set their own salaries and establish their own perks, while the struggling working poor tries to find  money or jobs to sustain a livelihood while working even below the average established wage.

The gap grows broader each day  as more people seek government jobs for security and unattainable perks, distributed by government who has developed a identity of a job producing indemnity.

When the voters were lead to believe the "Right to work" was approved that is would eliminated the out sourcing of millions of dues to be paid for the right to work.  It has in reality as is reported daily, become another tether around the neck of the working poor, who seek a job and are assed for the perks.       
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

waterboy

That's the truth around these parts. ;)

Shadows....what the hell you talkin about? You dissin' the French again?

RecycleMichael

Quote from: shadows on March 28, 2010, 04:39:36 PM
... become another tether around the neck of the working poor, who seek a job and are assed for the perks. 

Are you into autoerotic exphixiation?
Power is nothing till you use it.

Hoss

Someone needs to either increase or decrease the dosage, Shadows.

sgrizzle

Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 28, 2010, 06:24:54 PM
Are you into autoerotic exphixiation?

I was going to complain that you spelled it wrong, but ignorance on some subjects is actually a good thing..

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on March 28, 2010, 03:53:31 PM
You imply that there is but one correct way to run a country.

You cobbled that thought together from my comment?  Sweet.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

shadows

Quote from: waterboy on March 28, 2010, 06:08:44 PM
That's the truth around these parts. ;)

Shadows....what the hell you talkin about? You dissin' the French again?

In all good faith do you actually believe that Jefferson's flight to France with Sally, to over throw the house of Bourbon which has had repercussions even until today?  Did not the pitchfork army of the Russian   underclass's change the government that prevails today?  Did not the revolt in the thirties in China place it in the league of  first class powers?  We fought a war between the two nations of the of the north and south united states that today is not ended. Have we not fought four wars to a standstill with the behind screen act of supporting the underprivileged ?  Has great English Empire that the sun never set on, now is no more than a fragmentation of its days of glory? How many smaller countries are in revolt today in their struggle for a livelihood?

Revolts come under many categories from the citizen against unscrupulous bloated government functions who can set their own salaries within meeting closed to the public. The are many writers pointing this out but the solution fall on deft ears as it is blocked  out to the working poor
not allow an unbalanced system in which the working poor can rule themselves. The seekers of Those who believe they were born to rule seek to  create unsupervised jobs as they elevate them above the working poor who demand the higher of the American way of life stiles.

We have a beautiful land.  Not one country has ever had the opportunity to establish a secure way of life but those of greed like the trucking company is taking advantage of the promised way of the American life stile.  The city citizens have only to look as the  roads that are well blazed to accept that which is to come.
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

Hoss

Quote from: shadows on March 29, 2010, 05:31:51 PM
In all good faith do you actually believe that Jefferson's flight to France with Sally, to over throw the house of Bourbon which has had repercussions even until today?  Did not the pitchfork army of the Russian   underclass's change the government that prevails today?  Did not the revolt in the thirties in China place it in the league of  first class powers?  We fought a war between the two nations of the of the north and south united states that today is not ended. Have we not fought four wars to a standstill with the behind screen act of supporting the underprivileged ?  Has great English Empire that the sun never set on, now is no more than a fragmentation of its days of glory? How many smaller countries are in revolt today in their struggle for a livelihood?

Revolts come under many categories from the citizen against unscrupulous bloated government functions who can set their own salaries within meeting closed to the public. The are many writers pointing this out but the solution fall on deft ears as it is blocked  out to the working poor
not allow an unbalanced system in which the working poor can rule themselves. The seekers of Those who believe they were born to rule seek to  create unsupervised jobs as they elevate them above the working poor who demand the higher of the American way of life stiles.

We have a beautiful land.  Not one country has ever had the opportunity to establish a secure way of life but those of greed like the trucking company is taking advantage of the promised way of the American life stile.  The city citizens have only to look as the  roads that are well blazed to accept that which is to come.


I was smart this time...I skimmed it...so I only lost 30 seconds.

;D

waterboy

I won't mock you Shadow (though I doubt you care) because you seem too easy a target.

It seems you favor or anticipate an uprising from the poor masses of America. Only problem with that is, even the poorest among us is doing much better than the proletariat of the revolts you referred to. They all involved scarcities of food, lack of a compassionate judiciary and noble bloodlines accepted as rulers. We have seen worse and responded with more reasonable actions than revolution. Don't you think the big Depression you suffered through would have been our tipping point?

I don't know much about Bourbon except what I drink and its a damn fine invention when used correctly. But I do know, outside of the T-Baggers, there is no stomach for revolution among the masses. Now, take away their Soma(s) and yeah, we'll have some problems. ;)