Senate OKs bill to exempt firearms from federal regulation

[Nik]

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12312545

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - The Oklahoma Senate has approved a bill that would exempt firearms manufactured in the state from federal regulation.

House Bill 2994 by Sen. Randy Brogdon, R-Owasso, passed Wednesday on a 37-7 vote.

The bill provides that any firearm, firearm accessory or ammunition manufactured in Oklahoma is not subject to federal laws or regulation under the authority of Congress to regulate interstate commerce.

The bill was amended to encourage the state Department of Commerce to actively recruit a firearms manufacturer to Oklahoma.

I can't find anything else online about this. Is this another bill presented by our legislature that goes against federal regulation and will be shot down by the courts? I'm also confused about what federal laws and regulations this is supposed to circumvent. All?

[custosnox]

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12312545


I can't find anything else online about this. Is this another bill presented by our legislature that goes against federal regulation and will be shot down by the courts? I'm also confused about what federal laws and regulations this is supposed to circumvent. All?

It's a bill intended to make a show of state soviernty(sp?).  It follows another similar bill in, I think, Montana or Wyoming.  Personally I think that if it goes to court, it will be found that the constitution does not grant authority to regulate firearms, but I could be wrong.  If I had more time I would find the link, but you can find the bill on the state legistlature website. 

[Conan71]

Yeah, I don't quite get how that would work with the exception of firearms distributed within the state.  Even still I don't see how they can usurp Federal firearms regs.  It states very clearly the reasoning, to attract a manufacturer, but I fail to see how it has any teeth.

[nathanm]

It states very clearly the reasoning, to attract a manufacturer

A manufacturer from out of state. Which gives the feds a wide open door to using the commerce clause.

If Brogdon authored this bill in the expectation it would actually do anything, he's an even bigger moron than I thought. More likely it's just window dressing designed to keep the crazy wing of the gun owning set on his side. They're convinced, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the feds are going to take their guns so something like this plays very well with them.

[Conan71]

A manufacturer from out of state. Which gives the feds a wide open door to using the commerce clause.

If Brogdon authored this bill in the expectation it would actually do anything, he's an even bigger moron than I thought. More likely it's just window dressing designed to keep the crazy wing of the gun owning set on his side. They're convinced, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the feds are going to take their guns so something like this plays very well with them.

The "crazy wing", as you call it, is a very, very minute portion of legal gun owners in this state.  He's wasting his time for a very small percentage of votes if that's the case.  I've not seen recent numbers, but Fallin was out-pacing Brogdon's fund-raising by a margin of something like 4:1 back in January.  He's got to rely on as much free publicity as he can get, because he's having a hard time buying it.

IMO, the fear of government taking away guns is more water cooler talk than realistic belief.

[nathanm]

IMO, the fear of government taking away guns is more water cooler talk than realistic belief.

There's a lot of GOA members who probably disagree with that assessment, although I'm in full agreement.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Hysteria foments action, so there has to be some fomentation.

The state has the ability to set its own rules to some degree on guns and ownership, but Brogdon knows this is just propaganda hype. 

We can see from everything he has done/said in recent years what a complete tool he is.  This would be another Frank Keating type regime.  And for the older people here, remember how many years ago there were Polish jokes that over time changed into Arkansas jokes?  Well now they are Oklahoma jokes.

[jamesrage]

The "crazy wing", as you call it, is a very, very minute portion of legal gun owners in this state.  He's wasting his time for a very small percentage of votes if that's the case.  I've not seen recent numbers, but Fallin was out-pacing Brogdon's fund-raising by a margin of something like 4:1 back in January.  He's got to rely on as much free publicity as he can get, because he's having a hard time buying it.

IMO, the fear of government taking away guns is more water cooler talk than realistic belief.

Considering the fact liberal states tend to be very anti-2nd amendment and have lots of anti-2nd amendment laws it is a lie to say that its all water cooler talk. Waiting periods, licenses/permits,registrations and limits are things that liberal politicians in liberal states came up with.

[swake]

Considering the fact liberal states tend to be very anti-2nd amendment and have lots of anti-2nd amendment laws it is a lie to say that its all water cooler talk. Waiting periods, licenses/permits,registrations and limits are things that liberal politicians in liberal states came up with.

Randy Brogdon, is that you?

[jamesrage]

Randy Brogdon, is that you?

Do actually have any evidence to counter what I said or are you just going to sling insults since you have nothing? I know I can back up what I can say and I can use liberal site such as the Brady Campaign to back it up.

[Conan71]

Considering the fact liberal states tend to be very anti-2nd amendment and have lots of anti-2nd amendment laws it is a lie to say that its all water cooler talk. Waiting periods, licenses/permits,registrations and limits are things that liberal politicians in liberal states came up with.

And none of those laws lead to confiscation.  Are you a gun owner?  I am.  I'm not worried about the government knocking on my door and asking for my guns, nor are many of my fellow gun owning friends.

[jamesrage]

And none of those laws lead to confiscation.

The only reason for registrations and permits/licenses is a preludes to confiscations and nothing more,which have happened before in this country. They do not do anything to prevent crime nor do they really do anything to solve crime except for maybe a few crimes if any seeing how criminals are not going to register their firearms,nor are criminals going to go through legal channels to buy weapons if they do not have to. Severely restricting a constitutional right is almost close to confiscation.  Luckily Oklahoma is not New York or some other state that shits on the 2nd amendment,so a rapper would not get arrested for possessing a firearm.

Are you a gun owner?  I am.  I'm not worried about the government knocking on my door and asking for my guns, nor are many of my fellow gun owning friends.

Then you are either a liar or you are deluded.

[Hoss]

The only reason for registrations and permits/licenses is a preludes to confiscations and nothing more,which have happened before in this country. They do not do anything to prevent crime nor do they really do anything to solve crime except for maybe a few crimes if any seeing how criminals are not going to register their firearms,nor are criminals going to go through legal channels to buy weapons if they do not have to. Severely restricting a constitutional right is almost close to confiscation.  Luckily Oklahoma is not New York or some other state that shits on the 2nd amendment,so a rapper would not get arrested for possessing a firearm.


Then you are either a liar or you are deluded.

Where's the popcorn?  This should get good.

[Conan71]

Where's the popcorn?  This should get good.

Nah, I don't feel like arguing with delusinal, paranoid dipshits today. 

[Gaspar]

In states with heavy regulation of firearms, I think they are missing the boat.  They should really focus on programs to get criminals, or aspiring criminals, to take some initiative and register their guns.

I think that if you were to structure the legislation so that you got a criminal coupon for registering, these laws would be more effective.  Something like. . .

"Register your guns, and get 6 months off your next prison sentence."
Void where prohibited. Cannot be combined with other offers or coupons. 
OR
"Register your guns, and get a private room for your next prison sentence."
The state does not warrant that you will not still become someone's wife. Cannot be combined with other offers or coupons. 
OR
"Register your guns and get some crack."
Void where prohibited. Cannot be combined with other offers or coupons.