Responding to post 9/11 Republicans

[Cats Cats Cats]

Sure, but we're going to change that, right?

When it becomes the government who makes a poor medical decision on your behalf who do you sue?  The doctor was just doing what the government advised, or agreed to pay him for.  You will never get anywhere if you sue the government, they were providing the best care based on existing statistical data.

Something to ponder as we slouch forward.

We can always look at what other countries with government systems do. . .

In using "quality adjusted life years" per British pound to make treatment decisions, NICE (The National Institute for Clinical Health Excellence)  mandates that Britain cannot afford to spend, except in unusual cases, more than $22,000 to extend a life 6 months.  Sorry Nanna.

The Brits were promised there would never be rationing, as were the Canadians. . .

So if you don't have the money here its fine?

[nathanm]

So if you don't have the money here its fine?

I think he may be unaware of the relatively inexpensive private insurance available in the UK.

And Conan talking about medical malpractice insurance premiums rising? He might do well to check the statistics regarding the dollar value of malpractice claims over the same period. He would find that insurance rates increase without any corresponding increase in payouts.

[Gaspar]

I see that this will be a struggle for some.  We are demanding "change" when what we need is reason.  This battle may already be lost.

[nathanm]

I see that this will be a struggle for some.  We are demanding "change" when what we need is reason.  This battle may already be lost.

Your personal opinion does not define the limits of reason. I think you're wrong on a lot of things, but I think you come to those points of view through logic and reason. I'm certain you think I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I assure you I come to the conclusions I do the same way you do, just with different priorities and assumptions.