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Just Another Reason My Kids Will NEVER Attend Public Schools

Started by guido911, June 14, 2010, 08:29:21 PM

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TURobY

Quote from: guido911 on June 15, 2010, 03:00:58 PM
Why not? You have a problem with showing respect for those willing to spill their blood and put their lives on the line in service of their country?

Just wondering why that's not any more of an "ideological" stance made by the school than by the teachers not supporting the war...
---Robert

Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on June 15, 2010, 02:56:34 PM
See, I think that's the problem.  Who would want 72 virgins? 

Give me one experienced woman, a 12 pack of Marshalls Kegs and a nice sunset to enjoy as the thread drifts away.

FIFY
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

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Quote from: TURobY on June 15, 2010, 03:28:54 PM
Just wondering why that's not any more of an "ideological" stance made by the school than by the teachers not supporting the war...

Because its his ideology.. Duh..

guido911

Quote from: Trogdor on June 15, 2010, 03:42:43 PM
Because its his ideology.. Duh..

I never realized supporting our soldiers (and inductees) was ideological until just now. Who'd a thunk it?  Also, funny how supporting our troops means you support war?

From those both mocking our soldiers commitment (the 72 virgin crowd) and those defending the teacher's position, I guess it is safe to say, you can't support the troops and not the war.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

Quote from: guido911 on June 15, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
I never realized supporting our soldiers (and inductees) was ideological until just now. Who'd a thunk it?  Also, funny how supporting our troops means you support war?

From those both mocking our soldiers commitment (the 72 virgin crowd) and those defending the teacher's position, I guess it is safe to say, you can't support the troops and not the war.


Actually, I was mocking our enemies Guido.  Chill.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

TURobY

Then shouldn't there be a ceremony for all students who are entering the work-force after high school? After all, without all of us who aren't serving in the military, there wouldn't be anything for the soldiers to protect.
---Robert

Conan71

Quote from: TURobY on June 15, 2010, 03:54:17 PM
Then shouldn't there be a ceremony for all students who are entering the work-force after high school? After all, without all of us who aren't serving in the military, there wouldn't be anything for the soldiers to protect.

We already do and that ceremony is called "commencement".

Perhaps you are simply trying to egg-on Guido, but I think the military represents a certain level of noteworthy sacrifice that none of us can appreciate who have not served.  It's a sacrifice deserving of a lot of respect.  
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

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Quote from: guido911 on June 15, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
Also, funny how supporting our troops means you support war?
Huh?  I hear this all the time.. Though I think it varies with who starts it.  I personally do not believe that Sean Hannity and Limbaugh are against the troops.  They do not support all conflicts the United States has been in.

rwarn17588

Quote from: Conan71 on June 15, 2010, 03:57:43 PM

Perhaps you are simply trying to egg-on Guido, but I think the military represents a certain level of noteworthy sacrifice that none of us can appreciate who have not served.  It's a sacrifice deserving of a lot of respect.  

Perhaps. But it's also worth noting that there are occupations that have higher death rates per 100,000 people than the military does. It's not like they're the only ones at high risk while doing their jobs, and you don't hear them bleating about sacrifices.

TURobY

Quote from: Conan71 on June 15, 2010, 03:57:43 PM
We already do and that ceremony is called "commencement".

Perhaps you are simply trying to egg-on Guido, but I think the military represents a certain level of noteworthy sacrifice that none of us can appreciate who have not served.  It's a sacrifice deserving of a lot of respect.  

Commencement is not a celebration of the career choices made by high school students.

I'm not trying to egg-him-on at all. I'm asking why their decision to enter the military is any more important than my decision to contribute to the productivity and output of our nation. Both are important, and neither could exist without the other.
---Robert

DolfanBob

Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 15, 2010, 04:06:09 PM
Perhaps. But it's also worth noting that there are occupations that have higher death rates per 100,000 people than the military does. It's not like they're the only ones at high risk while doing their jobs, and you don't hear them bleating about sacrifices.

Touche or Oh Snap ! Whichever you prefer.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

Red Arrow

Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 15, 2010, 04:06:09 PM
But it's also worth noting that there are occupations that have higher death rates per 100,000 people than the military does.

We have been pretty good about not losing service people compared to say WWII.  Will you name a few examples of occupations (other than drug dealer etc) that have higher death rates than the military...in a war zone.  I don't think it would be really legitimate to compare war zone death rates with say a desk job in the Pentagon.
 

Conan71

Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 15, 2010, 04:06:09 PM
Perhaps. But it's also worth noting that there are occupations that have higher death rates per 100,000 people than the military does. It's not like they're the only ones at high risk while doing their jobs, and you don't hear them bleating about sacrifices.

Wow, talk about glib.

Next time you see a soldier in fatigues walking through the airport, remind him or her of that, they should all be taken down a notch anyhow, right?  I'm sure they will appreciate you crapping on their occupational choice.  I'd venture 9 out of 10 would support your right to free speech that they fight for.

It's not about death rates, sacrifice means a whole lot more than risking your life.  It also means totally giving up your own liberties while you are deployed, trying to sleep in 120 degree heat amongst many other mental and physical hardships, and not seeing your spouse or children for over a year.  All this while about 1/2 of the country doesn't consider that you are fighting an enemy nor directly defending American freedom.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 15, 2010, 04:06:09 PM
Perhaps. But it's also worth noting that there are occupations that have higher death rates per 100,000 people than the military does. It's not like they're the only ones at high risk while doing their jobs, and you don't hear them bleating about sacrifices.
Fine, have a ceremony for those folks as well if you like. During the coal miner's rally, I will be the guy in the crowd waiving the "green energy" or "down with coal" signs and for the deep sea fisherman's rally, I will have the "eat more chicken" or "save the ___ (name your favorite sea animal) sign.Doubt those signs would have the same effect though as an "End War" sign at a GI rally.  Oh, and let's see how many people actually will show at those other carrier's rallies versus those people entering military service where there is proud tradition of patriotism and love of country.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

rwarn17588