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Started by bugo, June 17, 2010, 11:58:14 AM

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bugo

The common name for the Oklahoma 51 freeway in Tulsa is the Broken Arrow Expressway or the "BA".  I hear the name "The BA" in advertising quite a bit.  The problem is except for a big green sign at the beginnings of the freeway, there is no signage designating the highway as such.  I propose that a new route marker be placed on the green overhead signs on highways and at intersections along with the OK 51 (and US 64) signs.  I designed a route marker based on the recent LL Tisdale and Gilcrease Expressway markers that have been recently placed on those highways, and had my friend Alex draw it up.  Here's the marker:



This marker would clarify where the Broken Arrow Expressway is, especially to out-of-towners who have no idea where the "BA" is. 

Opinions?

custosnox

sounds like a plan, though I'm still trying to find this "cross-town" expressway that I keep hearing talked about on the raido during traffic reports.

Dana431

Quote from: bugo on June 17, 2010, 11:58:14 AM

This marker would clarify where the Broken Arrow Expressway is, especially to out-of-towners who have no idea where the "BA" is. 

Opinions?

With turn-by-turn GPS directions on our phones, I suspect the use of Highway signs for navigation has lessened.  Might be a hard sell to ODOT.

guido911

Quote from: Dana431 on June 17, 2010, 12:20:20 PM
With turn-by-turn GPS directions on our phones, I suspect the use of Highway signs for navigation has lessened.  Might be a hard sell to ODOT.

As well as the taxpayers. Good point.
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OpenYourEyesTulsa

I wish everyone would just use one name for all the highways and streets.

sauerkraut

Did you hear awhile ago some guy wanted to make the BA Expressway a toll road? I guess he claims that will make traffic lighter on that road.
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custosnox

Quote from: sauerkraut on June 17, 2010, 12:36:09 PM
Did you hear awhile ago some guy wanted to make the BA Expressway a toll road? I guess he claims that will make traffic lighter on that road.
I believe the guys name was Dewey Bartlett Jr.

bugo

Quote from: guido911 on June 17, 2010, 12:29:32 PM
As well as the taxpayers. Good point.

Taxpayers have been paying for the OK 66 markers along I-44 for years.  Does anybody call it 66?  Does anybody actually follow 66 through Tulsa?

rwarn17588

Quote from: bugo on June 17, 2010, 12:54:06 PM
Taxpayers have been paying for the OK 66 markers along I-44 for years.  Does anybody call it 66?  Does anybody actually follow 66 through Tulsa?

The old alignment through Tulsa, yes.

bugo

Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 17, 2010, 01:06:45 PM
The old alignment through Tulsa, yes.

I'm referring to the modern SH-66 alignment which is duplexed with I-44.  Incidentally, the current I-44/Oklahoma 66 alignment was the last alignment of US 66.  For some reason, 66ers ignore that routing even though it was US 66 for nearly 30 years.

Townsend

Shouldn't they be trying to find buyers for naming rights on this one?

Unless Broken Arrow wants to pay us a large sum...

Red Arrow

Quote from: OpenYourEyesTulsa on June 17, 2010, 12:34:07 PM
I wish everyone would just use one name for all the highways and streets.

Which one name would you like for all the streets to have?   Main St.?

It would be easy to remember someone's address.  All you would need to remember is the number.

:D
 

rwarn17588

Quote from: bugo on June 17, 2010, 01:30:26 PM
I'm referring to the modern SH-66 alignment which is duplexed with I-44.  Incidentally, the current I-44/Oklahoma 66 alignment was the last alignment of US 66.  For some reason, 66ers ignore that routing even though it was US 66 for nearly 30 years.

There's a very good reason they ignore the last alignment. It's boring.

If you really want to see a city, you go onto the older, distinctive and historic routes, not the expressways.

bugo

Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 17, 2010, 04:48:53 PM
There's a very good reason they ignore the last alignment. It's boring.

It's not boring when you're stuck between 2 18 wheelers.

And it is an interesting alignment west of OK 51 because it's an early example of a freeway.  That will change when the rebuild is complete.

rwarn17588

Quote from: bugo on June 17, 2010, 05:01:06 PM
And it is an interesting alignment west of OK 51 because it's an early example of a freeway.  That will change when the rebuild is complete.

Trust me, it's not that interesting of a freeway.

Now, if you mean something like the Pasadena Freeway, aka Arroyo Seco Parkway, in Los Angeles, now you're talking. It dates to 1940, was an alignment of Route 66, and contains architectural touches you don't see anymore.

http://www.byways.org/explore/byways/10246/