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Joe Barton: Moron

Started by nathanm, June 17, 2010, 02:22:34 PM

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Conan71

Quote from: we vs us on June 18, 2010, 09:21:25 AM
Since you don't like to source your allegations, I took the liberty of doing some googling and found out that the font of this convoluted Rahm Emmanuel conspiracy theory is none other than Mr. Jerome Corsi, author of "Obama Nation" and, my personal favorite, "Unfit for Command."  In other words, this comes straight from the disgusting maw of the guy who invented swiftboating.  

So, maybe we should just go ahead and disregard, hm?  



"BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics...."

"During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records."

An Obama spokesman rejected the notion that the president took big oil money.

"President Obama didn't accept a dime from corporate PACs or federal lobbyists during his presidential campaign," spokesman Ben LaBolt said. "He raised $750 million from nearly four million Americans."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html#ixzz0rDd43C9K

Okay, his "spokesman" is flat out lying or is off in la-la land.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=D000000091&type=P&sort=A&cycle=2008
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on June 18, 2010, 09:35:21 AM
Thanks!  Actually that's not where I found the info at all.  It was from a few Washington Examiner stores but this is great. 

After reading it, I think he did a better job of putting it all together than anyone else has.  It's getting some play now, and I anticipate it will get deeper. 

Nothing here is refutable, it's all documented and the players haven't denied any of it.  If I was a Liberal this would make me even more upset.  I am not, so it just makes me disappointed.  :(
I didn't realize you were a conspiracy theorist. It explains a lot...
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on June 17, 2010, 02:22:34 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1721590120100617

What, exactly, is unamerican about asking someone to do something voluntarily? How does that prevent them from going to the courts (unless they agreed to contract away their rights). Speaking of which, if Joe Barton is so against choosing not to exercise one's rights, why again is he on the side of big business, most of which require us to contract away our rights if we want just about any sort of service?

I am shocked, shocked I say that you did not even attempt to interpret, clarify, or state what Barton really meant to say.

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

custosnox

Quote from: nathanm on June 18, 2010, 11:37:48 AM
I didn't realize you were a conspiracy theorist. It explains a lot...
Hey now, just because 90% of conspiracy theories are nuts does not mean that conspiracies don't exist.

Townsend

Quote from: custosnox on June 18, 2010, 12:18:41 PM
Hey now, just because 90% of conspiracy theories are nuts does not mean that conspiracies don't exist.

True.  I'm pretty sure my Toms are trying to frame me for murder.  I hear them whispering to the tie rack.

heironymouspasparagus

Barton received over 1.5 million from energy companies (not BP that I can tell) so there is no doubt where he is coming from.  Like Inhofe, who brags about how much he has received from big oil (over 1 million) and says that isn't enough.

These guy rub your noses in it and you just love the stink.
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on June 18, 2010, 12:13:50 PM
I am shocked, shocked I say that you did not even attempt to interpret, clarify, or state what Barton really meant to say.


I only do that when there are reasonable alternative meanings other than the plain meaning of the words.

Sort of like the BP Chairman who said "little people," which I'm sure has a much different connotation in Swedish (or Finnish or whatever he is).

Anyway, trying to paint the Democrats as being on BP's side after Mr. Barton engaged his verbal diarrhea seems like a tough row to hoe. Unfortunately, his attempt to align himself with the tea partiers failed miserably. You can say crap like that if you're Michelle Bachmann since everybody already knows you're insane. Unfortunate for the Republicans that the same statement was also made (in writing) by one or another of their groups of which 2/3rds of the House are members. ;)
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 18, 2010, 12:36:35 PM
Barton received over 1.5 million from energy companies (not BP that I can tell) so there is no doubt where he is coming from.  Like Inhofe, who brags about how much he has received from big oil (over 1 million) and says that isn't enough.

These guy rub your noses in it and you just love the stink.


It's next to impossible to find a DC politician who doesn't have a little oil under their fingernails.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

heironymouspasparagus

Every politician is on the side of the "little guy" when it comes to rhetoric.  Foreigner not understanding American slang?  No surprise there.  Stupid to react to his mis-speak.

They all have a lot of oil money.  Big oil, banks, corporate America in general hedges its bets and places some down on all sides.  Would be very stupid not to.
What is the biggest shame is that they are allowed to put any money at all into the process.  That is not 'freedom of speech'.


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.