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Oklahoma et. al. to Follow Arizona

Started by guido911, July 07, 2010, 08:34:22 PM

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Gaspar

Not Illegal Aliens
Not Illegal Immigrants
Not undocumented workers
Not even Immigrants
Now according to Harry Reed. . .Undocumented Americans!

Still any doubt about where this is headed?

"This week we will vote on cloture and final passage of a comprehensive bill that will strengthen border security, bring the 12 million undocumented Americans out of the shadows, and keep our economy strong." Harry Reid

They're already Americans, we just haven't finished the paperwork!  :D
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

dbacks fan

Quote from: Gaspar on July 12, 2010, 01:26:59 PM
Not Illegal Aliens
Not Illegal Immigrants
Not undocumented workers
Not even Immigrants
Now according to Harry Reed. . .Undocumented Americans!

Still any doubt about where this is headed?

"This week we will vote on cloture and final passage of a comprehensive bill that will strengthen border security, bring the 12 million undocumented Americans out of the shadows, and keep our economy strong." Harry Reid

They're already Americans, we just haven't finished the paperwork!  :D

Can you provide a link?

Gaspar

Quote from: dbacks fan on July 12, 2010, 06:15:34 PM
Can you provide a link?

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/undocumented-americans/56282/

Or you can watch it


He even put it on his website
http://reid.senate.gov/

Heck, he is now using it every time he refers to illegal aliens.  We're in trouble. :o


When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

I'm stunned.  I'm sending a donation to Sharron Angle's campaign this morning.  Listen to the moronic metaphor by our President while stumping for Harry the turd (sorry I can no longer honor Reid by calling him "Senator" he's an insult to the office):

"The president compared Las Vegas residents to those in the Gulf affected by the BP oil spill – whose livelihoods depend on tourism, and attacked Angle's stance on the spill, saying her answer was to deregulate the oil industry. He brought up Rep. Joe Barton's (R-Texas) apology to BP CEO Tony Hayward, in which he called a $20 billion escrow account to compensate those affected a "shakedown."

"Harry's opponent agreed with this guy, she called the compensation we provided a slush fund," the president said. "A few hours later, her campaign puts out a memo saying 'she didn't say that'... . They said there was some 'confusion'. I'm sure she meant 'slush fund' in the nicest possible way," he quipped."

Huh?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/07/president-obama-stumps-for-harry-reid-attacks-opponent-sharron-angle.html




"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on July 13, 2010, 09:40:59 AM
I'm stunned.  I'm sending a donation to Sharron Angle's campaign this morning.  Listen to the moronic metaphor by our President while stumping for Harry the turd (sorry I can no longer honor Reid by calling him "Senator" he's an insult to the office):
You really want to support a person who whined that if she didn't win, her supporters should turn to "second amendment solutions?"
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on July 13, 2010, 10:49:04 AM
You really want to support a person who whined that if she didn't win, her supporters should turn to "second amendment solutions?"

You bet I would rather than to support a knock-kneed liberal who shat upon our troops declaring the war as "lost" and now calling illegal aliens "Undocumented Americans".
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on July 13, 2010, 11:20:25 AM
You bet I would rather than to support a knock-kneed liberal who shat upon our troops declaring the war as "lost" and now calling illegal aliens "Undocumented Americans".
Good to know that you're in favor of armed revolution.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

RecycleMichael

Quote from: nathanm on July 13, 2010, 10:49:04 AM
You really want to support a person who whined that if she didn't win, her supporters should turn to "second amendment solutions?"

Do you have a link to that statement?

If so, no one should vote for her.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Red Arrow

Since Mexico is part of North America, there are several countries in Central America, and of course there is the South American continent , "Undocumented Americans" could be technically correct.  I don't think that was the intent though.
 

nathanm

#39
Quote from: RecycleMichael on July 13, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
Do you have a link to that statement?

If so, no one should vote for her.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/06/sharron_angle_floated_possibil.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hbvfn96wsY

The WaPo link has a link to the audio from the radio show.

Harry Reid may be an idiot, but at least he's not an escapee from the loony bin.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Hometown

#40
Correction:  There is no period after "et" because it is not an abbreviation.  Et is a complete word.  

Anyway, I've been following the depressing conversation about immigrants here for five years and like I've said before Oklahoma is at the beginning of a very long learning curve.  Meanwhile, I've watched local hate mongers throw everything they can at the immigrants and I have to say that if I had a dollar to bet I'd put it on the Latin community.  

Most of the hate flows from Oklahoma's Poor White Community who see immigrants as a direct threat to their livelihoods just like they saw Blacks as a threat to their livelihoods in 1921 before our famous race massacre.

Tulsa doesn't have a lot going for it these days.  One of the few bright spots on Tulsa's horizon is our vibrant, growing, prosperous and hard working Latin community.   They are the epitome of the American Dream.  

At the same time, the needs of our Poor White community are overwhelming.  They are the one demographic in our nation without an advocate.  Our job is two fold:  One, create a guest worker program with a path to citizenship.  Two, rewrite our affirmation action laws to address the needs of our nation's Poor Whites.

Rant all you want, the Browning of the U.S. is a done deal.  And we'll be far better for it.


Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on July 13, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
Do you have a link to that statement?

If so, no one should vote for her.

Citations aren't Nate's strong point:

"Angle: I feel that the Second Amendment is the right to keep and bear arms for our citizenry. This not for someone who's in the military. This not for law enforcement. This is for us. And in fact when you read that Constitution and the founding fathers, they intended this to stop tyranny. This is for us when our government becomes tyrannical...

Manders: If we needed it at any time in history, it might be right now.

Angle: Well it's to defend ourselves. And you know, I'm hoping that we're not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope the vote will be the cure for the Harry Reid problems.

The sentiments are not a one-off."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/06/what-are-sharron-angles-2nd-amendment-remedies-to-reids-oppression.html

"Nevada Republican Senate nominee Sharron Angle just sat down for an interview with Jon Ralston, one of the top political reporters in the state, on the NBC station in Reno. And a big question that Ralston had for her was just what she meant by people having "Second Amendment remedies."

Ralston played back the audio, with accompanying on-screen text, from an interview that Angle gave with a conservative talk radio host back in January. "You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason, and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. And in fact Thomas Jefferson said, it's good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years," Angle said. "I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying, my goodness, what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you, the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out."

"A lot of people think that's pretty outrageous rhetoric," Ralston said, referring to the language about "take Harry Reid out," and asked Angle whether she thought President Obama was a tyrant comparable to King George III.

"Well, I was speaking broadly, as you saw, about the Constitution, and that was the context of that rhetoric," Angle responded. "I admit that was a little strong to say 'take him out,' but you know what I meant. I meant take him out of office, and taking him out of office is a little different. I changed my rhetoric, to 'defeat Harry Reid.'"

Ralston continued to ask Angle whether she had gone too far.

"You know what, Jon," Angle responded, "I think it's interesting that we're nitpicking on all the little topics that Harry is putting out there."'

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/angle-i-was-speaking-broadly-about-second-amendment-remedies.php


"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Quote from: RecycleMichael on July 13, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
Do you have a link to that statement?

If so, no one should vote for her.

Audio is better.  It was from the Lars Larson show and taken out of context on Huffington and others.  She made two separate statements, one to the effect that the way things are going in congress people should be happy they still have second amendment rights.  The way she said it was inflammatory.

"I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around?"

Larson agreed with her statement and then her next sentience was:
"I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out."

Not referring to the use of arms, none the less, when the spinners at Huff got it she was calling for the execution of Harry Reid.  She immediately issued an apology and clarified her statement.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: Hometown on July 13, 2010, 12:07:58 PM
Correction:  There is no period after "et" because it is not an abbreviation.  Et is a complete word.  

Anyway, I've been following the depressing conversation about immigrants here for five years and like I've said before Oklahoma is at the beginning of a very long learning curve.  Meanwhile, I've watched local hate mongers throw everything they can at the immigrants and I have to say that if I had a dollar to bet I'd put it on the Latin community.  

Most of the hate flows from Oklahoma's Poor White Community who see immigrants as a direct threat to their livelihoods just like they saw Blacks as a threat to their livelihoods in 1921 before our famous race massacre.

Tulsa doesn't have a lot going for it these days.  One of the few bright spots on Tulsa's horizon is our vibrant, growing, prosperous and hard working Latin community.   They are the epitome of the American Dream.  

At the same time, the needs of our Poor White community are overwhelming.  They are the one demographic in our nation without an advocate.  Our job is two fold:  One, create a guest worker program with a path to citizenship.  Two, rewrite our affirmation action laws to address the needs of our nation's Poor Whites.

Rant all you want, the Browning of the U.S. is a done deal.  And we'll be far better for it.



Thanks a pant-load for the cheerful post HT.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on July 13, 2010, 12:07:20 PM
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/06/sharron_angle_floated_possibil.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hbvfn96wsY

The WaPo link has a link to the audio from the radio show.

Harry Reid may be an idiot, but at least he's not an escapee from the loony bin.

In case you haven't noticed, she's echoing the sentiment of close to 1/2 the country, Nate.  That percentage seems to keep growing by the day.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan