Time to Flush City Government

[shadows]

Twenty years to amend the city charter by less persons that post on this board.  The city meeting were crowed with vacant seats while the those filled could be counted with the fingers on one hand. Now we are going to change again to a city manager who will be appointed by nine persons representing almost 400,000 taxpayers who will continue to create city jobs based on the pay of one average of one multi-billionaire and 25,000 receptions on relief and food stamps (which average our some $40,000 yearly)

Before the ink was dry on the amendments we applied only the paying of the auditor as a elected official limited to 70 percent of mayor salary instead we have resorted to patriotism with the sky the limit on salaries that can be paid without to performance of the job in question.  The city is controlled by ward politics as there  is no way that a councilor can represent the number of voter in his district.   This is what the people voted for now they don't like the piece chicken they ask for.

The councilor from the North City objects to the home gardening concept because it could open the door for increase pot growing.  Not only also it would curtail production of the cash crops that are not being home grown.

China as it become a world power to recon with, in their courts of three judges only one can have any legal background and the other two laymen,  Maybe it is time to think of a council of 50 laymen who receive $100 dollars for each meeting they attend, with a limit of two meeting per month as the amended charter indicated,   The people ask for it now they have it and in the end one could predict that the federal intervention will settle it.

Our founding fathers required that all laws be written in the eight grade language.   They never indicated that the governing bodies should act like one that had obtained eight grade learning.

China does not make enough chemicals to flush and sanitize the city hall.

[rwarn17588]

Twenty years to amend the city charter by less persons that post on this board.  The city meeting were crowed with vacant seats while the those filled could be counted with the fingers on one hand. Now we are going to change again to a city manager who will be appointed by nine persons representing almost 400,000 taxpayers who will continue to create city jobs based on the pay of one average of one multi-billionaire and 25,000 receptions on relief and food stamps (which average our some $40,000 yearly)

Before the ink was dry on the amendments we applied only the paying of the auditor as a elected official limited to 70 percent of mayor salary instead we have resorted to patriotism with the sky the limit on salaries that can be paid without to performance of the job in question.  The city is controlled by ward politics as there  is no way that a councilor can represent the number of voter in his district.   This is what the people voted for now they don't like the piece chicken they ask for.

The councilor from the North City objects to the home gardening concept because it could open the door for increase pot growing.  Not only also it would curtail production of the cash crops that are not being home grown.

China as it become a world power to recon with, in their courts of three judges only one can have any legal background and the other two laymen,  Maybe it is time to think of a council of 50 laymen who receive $100 dollars for each meeting they attend, with a limit of two meeting per month as the amended charter indicated,   The people ask for it now they have it and in the end one could predict that the federal intervention will settle it.

Our founding fathers required that all laws be written in the eight grade language.   They never indicated that the governing bodies should act like one that had obtained eight grade learning.

China does not make enough chemicals to flush and sanitize the city hall.

[Hoss]

No RW, you're doing it wrong...

[shadows]

There is a problem with the amended charter as it seems no one knows what was amended or understands what great improvements were made in city government especially increasing the cost of government with less work and higher salaries.  When a post is submitted the PAC-MAN still dominates entirely the total  knowledge of who or how the city is being run or they are chopped up by the PAC-MAN.  Only one thing is certain that it was written on sheets of rubber so it can be stretch to cover any of the powers to be needs.

[RecycleMichael]

There is a problem with the amended charter as it seems no one knows what was amended or understands what great improvements were made in city government especially increasing the cost of government with less work and higher salaries.  When a post is submitted the PAC-MAN still dominates entirely the total  knowledge of who or how the city is being run or they are chopped up by the PAC-MAN.  Only one thing is certain that it was written on sheets of rubber so it can be stretch to cover any of the powers to be needs.

Did you bump your little head again? You really should lie down and get some rest.

[shadows]

I would love to do away with the city council all together....

No; I did not bump my wittle head like so many of the lifers of city hall continues to do so every day in their confusion to  watch  a government wants to be supported by the working poor and retirees with the stimulus federal pay outs.  Were this secondary non-producing funding were to cease passed out from the secondary collection of those who are in need of relief. (for those who do not understand this says Tulsa live within it's means and quit asking for federal donations).

The TW printed out an article concerning the rise and fall of the American Empire (around the 1st of  April) in which the author points out we we are operating on bogus paper without backup, which eluded to a false economy.  Tulsa, with its glut of surplus of hotel rooms are now subsiding the adding of another 200 rooms at the working poor taxpayer's expense while one with 600 rooms has a struggle to keep theirs open.

Tulsa is too close to Oklahoma City and the days of a two day ride on horse back to it has long  passed but we still hold on to the fantasy that Tulsa needs to duplicate their governing when the distance of communizing on high speed mono-rail can be accomplished in less than an hour. (Many job holders in NYC spend that time at the present.}

It would be so simple to annul the Tulsa City Amended Charter and build a fence line to OC 200 feet wide and install a mono-rail to OC saving 
Tulsa's working poor millions of dollars by stopping duplications of government.

Tulsans voted for the changes, that have been installed by the mayor by a majority vote and now the small group are nitpicking for some reason that would prohibit him from doing his job.

The solution lies with the small group to find a good solid wall, if one can be found in the new city bargain city hall and bumping their wittle heads on it until they can see's the light.

It will come to pass as Tulsa will be forced into default and the stimulus monies end with its time cycle and the clock is running.  The mayor seems to be the only one with the intelligence to realize it.     

Did you bump your little head again? You really should lie down and get some rest.

[Hawkins]

Although I first heard the idea floated about on KFAQ Hate Radio, I kind of like the idea that to be qualified to run for City Council one should have at minimum a 4-year degree.

And I agree that BOTH this current council and the Mayor should be ousted at the earliest possible moment.

[Gold]

I'm now of the belief we need to throw everyone out and start over.  I hate to say that because I like Bynum and a couple of others.  But this City Council continues to exceed its stated authority and this mayor seems to just want to fight. Throw them all out.

[Gaspar]

I'm now of the belief we need to throw everyone out and start over.  I hate to say that because I like Bynum and a couple of others.  But this City Council continues to exceed its stated authority and this mayor seems to just want to fight. Throw them all out.

True dat!

[Townsend]

City of Tulsa, A Model Government for A Colorado Community?

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12918103

TULSA, OK -- Several Tulsa city leaders have been asked for advice as voters in Colorado Springs, Colorado, consider changing their local government to the "strong mayor" form used in Tulsa.

Colorado Springs currently has a city manager who handles most affairs of government, while the City Council appoints some positions.

A citizens initiative called "The Mayor Project" is gathering signatures for a petition that would give voters the option of creating a strong mayor's post to run the government.

A Colorado Springs newspaper contacted several Tulsa leaders for comment on how well it works. Several city councilors were quoted, though the newspaper reported Mayor Dewey Bartlett did not return a call for comment.

Colorado Springs Independent article: Comin' On Strong

[nathanm]

The problem is that any form of government will be completely worthless if you get the likes of Dewey Bartlett running it. It's not the strong mayor position, it's the idiot in the office.

[custosnox]

The problem is that any form of government will be completely worthless if you get the likes of Dewey Bartlett running it. It's not the strong mayor position, it's the idiot in the office.

and yet we can't find anyone decent to put in the position.  Savage was largely inneffective (now I am going off of a very old, very uninvovled memory on that one), Lafortune was... well... Lafortune, and Taylor overspent.  While Dewey is a complete moron, the position doesn't seem to attract those who not only have the best interests of the city in mind, but also those who have the ability to impliment things in a way that will be good for the city over all.

[Gold]

I think the form is at issue.  Do they not have term limits on the council?  If so, why not?

The council has several personalities that aren't interested in getting anything worthwhile done.

[jne]

Major LAWLZ


City Of Tulsa: Model Government For Colorado Community?

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12918103

[jne]

Major LAWLZ


City Of Tulsa: Model Government For Colorado Community?

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12918103

Ah, I see I was a little late on this one. 
BTW Does anyone think Dewey would have any problem screwing things up even if there were a city manager position?  I still don't have a very strong feeling either for or against such a position.  Although, I admit, I'm getting warmer to the idea as this saga continues, but really, would it make that much difference?