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New Game: How Clueless is Dewey?

Started by swake, August 03, 2010, 02:51:16 PM

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swake

Pretty Clueless:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100803_11_0_Tulsac246642

Free personal legal advice from a city contracted law firm whose contract he just extended.

Wow, just plain wow.

Conan71

Has the recall petition been started?

He is awful, just plain awful.  I don't know why but that picture in the story you cited would look great superimposed on a whack-a-mole game.

I think whomever runs against him (assuming he's not deposed sooner) in the next election should have a whack-a-dewey game at the fair.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

custosnox

Quote from: Conan71 on August 03, 2010, 03:25:35 PM
Has the recall petition been started?

He is awful, just plain awful.  I don't know why but that picture in the story you cited would look great superimposed on a whack-a-mole game.

I think whomever runs against him (assuming he's not deposed sooner) in the next election should have a whack-a-dewey game at the fair.
There is one, and it is being circulated by one of our poster.  Problem is getting it to where the people are (I still haven't been able to get ahold of it either).

jne

I'd be glad to sign if I ever see it.
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jiminy

Can we start one to fire the entire council as well?  We need a fresh start

Shely

If the poster has volunteers, the best place to get signatures is the Tulsa State Fair which is coming up very soon.  Have volunteers at every entry gate.

I remember a couple of years ago when that bridge issue between Jenks and Tulsa was going on that citizens group obtained like 10,000 signatures in 10 days at the fair (or however long the fair is).  They had volunteers everywhere getting signatures.



   


PepePeru

Don't blame me, I voted for Accountability Burns.

custosnox

Quote from: Shely on August 03, 2010, 09:15:24 PM
If the poster has volunteers, the best place to get signatures is the Tulsa State Fair which is coming up very soon.  Have volunteers at every entry gate.

I remember a couple of years ago when that bridge issue between Jenks and Tulsa was going on that citizens group obtained like 10,000 signatures in 10 days at the fair (or however long the fair is).  They had volunteers everywhere getting signatures.



   


Problem is the signatures have to come from those who actually voted in the election.  Those are a lot harder to find.

sgrizzle

Quote from: swake on August 03, 2010, 02:51:16 PM
Pretty Clueless:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100803_11_0_Tulsac246642

Free personal legal advice from a city contracted law firm whose contract he just extended.

Wow, just plain wow.

He was interviewed about it on KRMG this morning, the response went something like this:

DB: I asked him if he would have any conflicts representing me and he said no.

KRMG: But he wouldn't have a conflict, the conflict would be on your end.

DB: Well, uh, I mean.. I.. uh asked him if there would be any conflicts for me.. for him to be respresenting me.. and he, uh said no, and I, uh.. trust his judgement, because he's a lawyer and I'm not.


(During the same interview he was asked why he didn't show up to the council meeting that he was formally requested to be at. At first he said he didn't know far enough in advance, then realized he was given 7 days notice, then said he decided not to go because the meeting agenda didn't look like anything he really needed to be there for.)

Conan71

Is he clueless or a pathological liar?  He was a city councilor, he knows how the farking council works, for crying out loud.

Westcott nailed it best when he described the conflict of interest issue with Wohlgemuth (and I do hold Mr. Wohlgemuth in high esteem).  He likened it to the director of Public Works getting a free driveway from a paving contractor the city uses.  Bartlet (sic) had just signed a contract extension with Wohlgemuth approving an additional $25K in legal work on a federal lawsuit against the city. 

How could anyone be so stupid as to not see at very least a percieved conflict given those circumstances?  You accept pro bono legal representation from an attorney you are signing contracts to do business with the city.  Does he have friggin' Aspergers?  How does that one just fly over your head?  I'm curious if he's trading bong hits with fotd.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

tulsa_fan

I'm still here . . . . . State Fair is a great idea for signatures.  It is hard to get the organization going.  I have small kids, work full time, etc.  But there are several getting involved.  It doesn't have to be signed by people who actually voted in the election, it's jsut the number of signatures needed is based of the number of people that voted.  We only need a little over 3,000 . . . . we could have had a ton before, but "someone" kept telling the police officers they weren't allowed to sign it because of some clause in their contract, that's BS.  Of course, taking the petition around in uniform I agree . . . of course, the firefighters seemed to have gotten a lot of leeway on that issue . . . :)

Conan, you might have missed it because I asked on another thread weeks ago about the conflict, of course, I just thought it was that he was representing to clients . . . the "city" and bartlett . . . didn't even think about the bigger ethical issue.

I'm with you though, clueless?  probably, pathalogical liar, ABSOLUTELY!!!
 

custosnox

Quote from: tulsa_fan on August 04, 2010, 04:07:50 PM
I'm still here . . . . . State Fair is a great idea for signatures.  It is hard to get the organization going.  I have small kids, work full time, etc.  But there are several getting involved.  It doesn't have to be signed by people who actually voted in the election, it's jsut the number of signatures needed is based of the number of people that voted.  We only need a little over 3,000 . . . . we could have had a ton before, but "someone" kept telling the police officers they weren't allowed to sign it because of some clause in their contract, that's BS.  Of course, taking the petition around in uniform I agree . . . of course, the firefighters seemed to have gotten a lot of leeway on that issue . . . :)

Conan, you might have missed it because I asked on another thread weeks ago about the conflict, of course, I just thought it was that he was representing to clients . . . the "city" and bartlett . . . didn't even think about the bigger ethical issue.

I'm with you though, clueless?  probably, pathalogical liar, ABSOLUTELY!!!
going back and reading it again, I seemed to have misread the frist time around.  Funny how you can read something, and think it says one thing, and go back and look at it again and it actually says something else.  And for those who are interested in process, here is the procedure from the charter.

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SECTION 2.1. PROCEDURE FOR RECALL. If the officer sought to be recalled was elected from the city at large, a preliminary petition for recall of the elected officer must contain the signatures of qualified electors residing in the city equal in number to five percent (5%) of all those voting for the affected office in the last preceding general election. If the officer sought to be recalled was elected from an election district, a preliminary petition for recall of the elected officer must contain the signatures of qualified electors residing in the election district involved equal in number to ten percent (10%) of all those voting in that election district for the affected office in the preceding general election. Preliminary petitions for recall shall be filed with the City Clerk and shall state the reasons for the proposed recall in not more than two hundred (200) words so that the officer sought to be recalled may be informed of the grounds upon which recall is sought. No petition for recall shall include more than one (1) elected officer. The City Clerk shall serve a copy of the preliminary petition by personal service upon the officer sought to be recalled, who shall have five (5) days thereafter within which to file with the City Clerk an answer to the preliminary petition for recall in not more than two hundred (200) words. If such officer does not file an answer in the time specified, no answer of the officer shall appear upon the supporting petition.

cecelia

I can't believe the citizens of Tulsa elected Bartlett - wait, yes, I can because the citizens of Tulsa seem to have some bizarre need to keep The Old Money of Tulsa running things, even though keeping Tulsa's power in the hands of The Old Money is exactly why the city is falling further and further behind.

Bartlett is a spoiled brat who never accomplished anything on his own. He's always gotten everything he ever wanted, and not through his own effort.

Maybe someday Tulsa will wise up, but increasingly I find myself doubting it.

custosnox

Quote from: cecelia on August 07, 2010, 03:58:44 PM
I can't believe the citizens of Tulsa elected Bartlett - wait, yes, I can because the citizens of Tulsa seem to have some bizarre need to keep The Old Money of Tulsa running things, even though keeping Tulsa's power in the hands of The Old Money is exactly why the city is falling further and further behind.

Bartlett is a spoiled brat who never accomplished anything on his own. He's always gotten everything he ever wanted, and not through his own effort.

Maybe someday Tulsa will wise up, but increasingly I find myself doubting it.
Honestly, I think Dewey got in more by a combination name reconition and that big R next to his name

cecelia

Quote from: custosnox on August 07, 2010, 06:01:05 PM
Honestly, I think Dewey got in more by a combination name reconition and that big R next to his name

Yep. Plus Tulsans always default to their safety zone: Old Money Knows Best.