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Started by Gaspar, August 13, 2010, 07:29:01 AM

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Quote from: we vs us on August 13, 2010, 10:46:23 AM
From what I've read, the actual money in play in the markets was more due to unregulated derivatives trading and the bundling of bad mortgages into depth-charge financial products than consumer debt.  

Not that consumer debt wasn't/isn't a problem, it's just that that money doesn't show up directly in the markets as a vehicle someone can invest in . . . and hence one that inflates or deflates in value.

I am basing that statement on the fact that our economy is mostly consumer driven.  So there is a sort of artificial demand in some sectors that are extending people to buy houses, cars, home improvement items, vacations, gasoline, natural gas, electricity. etc etc.  So a huge pile of earnings in the market were due to 2nd mortgages and overall more debt.  So while that money isn't used to invest it does show up in the earnings in the companies in the Dow.

RecycleMichael

With less than an hour left in the trading day, the Dow is up slightly.

The day range has been from 10,285 to 10,355.

Pretty normal day.

GAS stock is down slightly...
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on August 13, 2010, 02:12:35 PM


GAS stock is down slightly...


Rather deflated.  Give him a break though, it's his birthday.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Here's his senior pics.



Brainiac Gas and Good-times Gas

Smart + Party = good times

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on August 13, 2010, 02:19:08 PM
Here's his senior pics.



Brainiac Gas and Good-times Gas

Smart + Party = good times

Dang!  Wish I had thought of a monocle for my Senior pics.

Funny story though, when the photographer asked my name I said "Ted Nugent" and he wrote it on the card without a flinch.  My mom was so proud that her son was forever immortalized in the 87' Jenks yearbook as Ted Nugent.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Index   Last Change
I:DJI  10303.15 -16.80-0.16%

INX  1079.25 -4.36-0.40%

SPX.X  1079.25 -4.36-0.40%

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on August 13, 2010, 02:26:26 PM

Funny story though, when the photographer asked my name I said "Ted Nugent" and he wrote it on the card without a flinch.  My mom was so proud that her son was forever immortalized in the 87' Jenks yearbook as Ted Nugent.


I wish I'd been awesome enough to think of a name from "Fletch".

Gaspar

In case you hadn't heard, Thursday's action on the New York Stock Exchange registered a technical anomaly known as the Hindenburg Omen. Read: just like the doomed German airship, the markets are fated to crash and burn. Still worse, Wednesday's trading action almost sparked Hindenburg Omen conditions. It takes two Hindenburg Omen trading days within a 36 day window to trigger the end of life in the markets as we know it.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10835851/1/hindenburg-omen-is-a-stock-market-crash-imminent.html
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Hoss

Quote from: Gaspar on August 16, 2010, 08:54:48 AM
In case you hadn't heard, Thursday's action on the New York Stock Exchange registered a technical anomaly known as the Hindenburg Omen. Read: just like the doomed German airship, the markets are fated to crash and burn. Still worse, Wednesday's trading action almost sparked Hindenburg Omen conditions. It takes two Hindenburg Omen trading days within a 36 day window to trigger the end of life in the markets as we know it.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10835851/1/hindenburg-omen-is-a-stock-market-crash-imminent.html

Mmmm.....tasty FUD

nathanm

Quote from: Hoss on August 16, 2010, 09:00:14 AM
Mmmm.....tasty FUD
If that article doesn't convince you that the modern stock market is completely divorced from fundamentals, nothing will.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Townsend


Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on August 16, 2010, 09:10:59 AM
If that article doesn't convince you that the modern stock market is completely divorced from fundamentals, nothing will.

Divorced?  Hell it's even got a protective order frm fundamentals.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

It's market voodoo.  Self fulfilling prophecy.  An Oracle (NASDAQ:ORCL) could do no better.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on August 16, 2010, 09:43:54 AM
An Oracle (NASDAQ:ORCL) could do no better.
Oracle will be sitting pretty if they win their lawsuit against Google. ;)
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

RecycleMichael

Quote from: Gaspar on August 16, 2010, 08:54:48 AM
In case you hadn't heard, Thursday's action on the New York Stock Exchange registered a technical anomaly known as the Hindenburg Omen. Read: just like the doomed German airship, the markets are fated to crash and burn. Still worse, Wednesday's trading action almost sparked Hindenburg Omen conditions. It takes two Hindenburg Omen trading days within a 36 day window to trigger the end of life in the markets as we know it.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

You must think we are all named Henny Penny or Turkey Lurky...
Power is nothing till you use it.