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[Townsend]

Man, has the Tea Party ever broken up all that traditional Republican party discipline!  I have to say, I would've never imagined a schism like this . . . to such a degree that sitting members of congress feel comfortably making competing rebuttals.  And not only that, but that Bachmann just CHOSE herself to be that spokesperson.  No one actually nominated her, or asked her to do it as an official member of the Tea party or anything like that.  She just set this whole thing up herself, and because she's the only person who did it, she'll be considered the Voice of the Tea Party.  

It just points up how completely headless the GOP is at the moment, and how compromised the current leadership really is.  They can't stop a nutjob like Bachmann from upstaging them and driving policy further right simply because she jumped first.  

Boy do we live in interesting times.

Can you read his mind?

[swake]

Can you read his mind?

Can't you just feel the love?

[Hoss]

Can't you just feel the love?

Perfect photo to play 'cartoon bubble this' with.

[Conan71]

M'kay, I really don't follow Michele Bachman.  I'm assuming she must be halfway bright as I hear libs tearning her down at any chance so she must be a threat.  I'm beginning to assume when a female is ascending on the right, the left will simply bat them down as being uppity or crazy.

Someone care to specifically name some things which makes them view her as crazy, aside from filtered Koz or HuffPo puffery?  I've heard brief snippets of her on the radio and haven't heard anything which tripped my radar. 

[Townsend]

  I'm beginning to assume when a female is ascending on the right, the left will simply bat them down as being uppity or crazy.

That happens on all sides.  No matter with whom the ascending female is associated.

[swake]

M'kay, I really don't follow Michele Bachman.  I'm assuming she must be halfway bright as I hear libs tearning her down at any chance so she must be a threat.  I'm beginning to assume when a female is ascending on the right, the left will simply bat them down as being uppity or crazy.

Someone care to specifically name some things which makes them view her as crazy, aside from filtered Koz or HuffPo puffery?  I've heard brief snippets of her on the radio and haven't heard anything which tripped my radar. 

She's not a threat, she's just a striving loony right wing birther who is trying really hard to make herself seem the leader of the Tea Party. She's a joke is what she is. And the house Republican leadership hate her much more than than the left does. She's a gold mine for the left.

[Conan71]

That happens on all sides.  No matter with whom the ascending female is associated.

I've heard Hillary Clinton called a "raging liberal", "mangina", "untrustworty", biznitch, etc.  I've never heard her referred to as "crazy", or a "nutjob".  Have you?  The 1/2 term gov also gets the crazy and nutjob labels with predictable regularity.

[Conan71]

She's not a threat, she's just a striving loony right wing birther who is trying really hard to make herself seem the leader of the Tea Party. She's a joke is what she is. And the house Republican leadership hate her much more than than the left does. She's a gold mine for the left.

Okay, two replies so far and zero specifics. It's sort of like asking for three specific things President Obama has done to improve the economy in the last six months. No one seems to be able to answer that.

Next?  Anyone have specifics or are we going to keep listing generalizations I can get from MSNBC, Koz, and HuffPo? I can source my own talking points if that's what I'm looking for.

[Townsend]

Okay, two replies so far and zero specifics. It's sort of like asking for three specific things President Obama has done to improve the economy in the last six months. No one seems to be able to answer that.

Next?  Anyone have specifics or are we going to keep listing generalizations I can get from MSNBC, Koz, and HuffPo? I can source my own talking points if that's what I'm looking for.

She's been accused of murder.  

Limbaugh again suggested Hillary Clinton had Vincent Foster murdered

http://mediamatters.org/research/200509210002

http://www.stewwebb.com/Hillary_Clinton_Murders_March_27_2007.htm

[swake]

Okay, two replies so far and zero specifics. It's sort of like asking for three specific things President Obama has done to improve the economy in the last six months. No one seems to be able to answer that.

Next?  Anyone have specifics or are we going to keep listing generalizations I can get from MSNBC, Koz, and HuffPo? I can source my own talking points if that's what I'm looking for.

Well, if it's not odd enough that she's appointed herself as spokewoman for the Tea Party and is going to give her own response to the State of the Union, there's this item from just this week where she tries to rewrite the American history of slavery:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/01/25/2011-0125_anderson_cooper_rips_gop_rep_michele_bachmann_over_comments_on_slavery_diversity.html

She was the one that claimed that Obama's trip to India was going to cost $200 million a day
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/michele-bachmann-accuses-obama-administrat


When Obama was running for president she accused him of being UnAmerican along with other members of congress and says that they should be investigated:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27243547#27243547

She called on people to not complete the census:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/17/exclusive-minn-lawmaker-fears-census-abuse/

There's tons more too

[Gaspar]

I've heard Hillary Clinton called a "raging liberal", "mangina", "untrustworty", biznitch, etc.  I've never heard her referred to as "crazy", or a "nutjob".  Have you?  The 1/2 term gov also gets the crazy and nutjob labels with predictable regularity.

I think neither are crazy or nutjobs, they both have a deep desire to lead this country. . .just in different directions. 


Very different directions.

[Conan71]

Blindly partisan, yes.  Great at spewing conservative pap, yep.  Crazy, or nutjob? Only in the editorialized opinion of one of the bloggers you posted.  Sorry I'm just not seeing anything more that makes her crazy than "We need to pass this bill to see what's in it" or "Unemployment benefits are great for the economy."

I have no clue where the rumor started the trip to India cost $200mm per day, but apparently it was somewhere in the media if you actually read the entirety of the Cooper piece. 

Don't waste your time Googling trying to come up with more stories.  I can enter "Michele Bachman, crazy" or any other number of strings to come up with all sorts of articles and post them without reading them if that's what I asked for.  I really don't see how taking leadership upon herself in providing a Tea Party response to SOTU is crazy.  The Tea Party is a faction of rogue conservatives, she's a rogue conservative not staying in step with the rest of the GOP.  "Crazy" has been a consistent buzzword the left has used to try and discredit the Tea Party from day one.

So libs will continue to call those they don't agree with crazy and cons will continue to call those they don't agree with stupid.

[dbacks fan]

According to this the only way you can se her will be to watch it streamed on the tea party website.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/01/michele-bachmann-delivering-he.html

And FWIW here is an interview with her by Chris Mathews from '08:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/10/rep_michele_bachmann_tells_chr.html

[Gaspar]

According to this the only way you can se her will be to watch it streamed on the tea party website.

Well, than this shouldn't be any concern to anyone, huh?

[Townsend]

Well, than this shouldn't be any concern to anyone, huh?

You mean other than if your concern is she's crazy as a loon and has a position of power?