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Started by Gaspar, August 16, 2010, 02:08:39 PM

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rwarn17588

It would seem this fellow would have an emotional stake in the issue:



I guess he disagrees with guido that building Cordoba House is insensitive.

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on August 18, 2010, 02:02:45 PM
And you know why the debt is skyrocketing? It ain't because of massive spending increases. It's because of massive revenue decreases.

I thought it was because of Bush?
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Cats Cats Cats

Quote from: nathanm on August 18, 2010, 02:02:45 PM
Don't believe everything you read in the Post. Or any other muckraking Murdoch paper.

And you know why the debt is skyrocketing? It ain't because of massive spending increases. It's because of massive revenue decreases.

If you take away Bush's bailout plan for 2009 Obama's "defecit" wouldn't have been in line with "average" (which is still not where we need to be).  The problem is that even with all of the "bailouts" and the "1 time" expenditures we have had in 2008 and 2009.  The spending of the federal government isn't slated to reduce until (2012 is it?).  And on Murdoch, I guess you didn't see yet where Newcorp gave the Republican Governors Comittee (or whatever it is) a huge donation?

guido911

Quote from: Gaspar on August 18, 2010, 02:12:40 PM
I thought it was because of Bush?

It was and always will be Bush's fault.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

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Quote from: rwarn17588 on August 18, 2010, 02:12:21 PM
It would seem this fellow would have an emotional stake in the issue:



I guess he disagrees with guido that building Cordoba House is insensitive.

Wow, what a powerful smack down of those opposing the mosque because its location is insensitive. You know, stating the obvious and all. fail.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on August 18, 2010, 02:12:40 PM
I thought it was because of Bush?
The Bush tax cuts and the massive increase in military and security spending made us start from a far worse position, but are not the cause of the entire deficit, obviously.

Bailouts+stimulus+enormous deficit=gigantic deficit
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

swake

Quote from: guido911 on August 18, 2010, 02:28:48 PM
It was and always will be Bush's fault.

It will take many years to repair all his damage. His incompetence was staggering.

Gaspar

Quote from: swake on August 18, 2010, 02:48:27 PM
His incompetence was staggering.

Thank God we have someone who can take that to a whole new level now!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Hoss

Quote from: Gaspar on August 18, 2010, 02:52:32 PM
Thank God we have someone who can take that to a whole new level now!

Yep, let's don't misunderestimate the current President!

Conan71

Quote from: swake on August 18, 2010, 02:48:27 PM
It will take many years to repair all his damage. His incompetence was staggering.

His successor's competence is seriously in doubt
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Quote from: swake on August 18, 2010, 02:48:27 PM
It will take many years to repair all his damage. His incompetence was staggering.

I get it Swake, Bush is the worst person who has ever lived.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

Quote from: guido911 on August 18, 2010, 03:08:11 PM
I get it Swake, Bush is the worst person who has ever lived.

I just get confused.  I thought he was just a puppet of Cheney or Rove?
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

swake

Bush isn't the worst person that ever lived. He was just the worst president we have had in the modern era. But he wasn't evil, just incompetent. Nixon was evil. Maybe Johnson too. I always thought Bush was trying to do the right thing, he just wasn't very bright. And he had some really awful people around him, like Rove and Cheney.

Look at Obama outside of the 30 second news cycle and fake right wing media created storms like the Mosque. He's stopped and turned around the greatest financial meltdown in the last 90 years, he saved the US auto industry and the millions of related jobs. He passed  universal health care, passed the largest financial reform bill in decades, is pulling troops out on schedule in Iraq and taking Afghanistan seriously for the first time since the war started 10 years ago. In the largest oil spill in world history he got the responsible company to pay damages now instead of after years of lawsuits.

He's done a ton, probably more than any president since Roosevelt. Our financial mess was likely worse than the one precipitated the great depression and it was stopped. Many presidents have attempted health care and failed. His numbers are somewhat poor, but they are far better than Bush's were in a decent economy. And any presidents would poll numbers will be down an economy like this, but, it should be noted that it is an economy that has grown consistently during his presidency. Obama's biggest failure is that he has not been able to yet repair all the damage done by Bush. He has had the sharpest, most hateful and most idiotic critics of any president ever in one of the most trying times in our history. Much of the Republican party has completely left honesty and reason behind and is acting like a parade of self serving morons.

The economy is slow to heal and people are impatient. But it will heal, everything is a cycle. The short time before this next election is his short term enemy, and time will be friend in 2012.

Conan71

The Obama apologist wagon has rolled into Tulsa, apparently.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Quote from: swake on August 18, 2010, 03:27:35 PM
Bush isn't the worst person that ever lived. He was just the worst president we have had in the modern era. But he wasn't evil, just incompetent. Nixon was evil. Maybe Johnson too. I always thought Bush was trying to do the right thing, he just wasn't very bright. And he had some really awful people around him, like Rove and Cheney.

Look at Obama outside of the 30 second news cycle and fake right wing media created storms like the Mosque. He's stopped and turned around the greatest financial meltdown in the last 90 years, he saved the US auto industry and the millions of related jobs. He passed  universal health care, passed the largest financial reform bill in decades, is pulling troops out on schedule in Iraq and taking Afghanistan seriously for the first time since the war started 10 years ago. In the largest oil spill in world history he got the responsible company to pay damages now instead of after years of lawsuits.

He's done a ton, probably more than any president since Roosevelt. Our financial mess was likely worse than the one precipitated the great depression and it was stopped. Many presidents have attempted health care and failed. His numbers are somewhat poor, but they are far better than Bush's were in a decent economy. And any presidents would poll numbers will be down an economy like this, but, it should be noted that it is an economy that has grown consistently during his presidency. Obama's biggest failure is that he has not been able to yet repair all the damage done by Bush. He has had the sharpest, most hateful and most idiotic critics of any president ever in one of the most trying times in our history. Much of the Republican party has completely left honesty and reason behind and is acting like a parade of self serving morons.

The economy is slow to heal and people are impatient. But it will heal, everything is a cycle. The short time before this next election is his short term enemy, and time will be friend in 2012.


I get it Swake, Obama is the greatest person who's ever lived.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.