The New Mosque

[guido911]

Here's a video from those opposing the mosque. Of course, they need to be investigated:

[Gaspar]

Bush isn't the worst person that ever lived. He was just the worst president we have had in the modern era. But he wasn't evil, just incompetent. Nixon was evil. Maybe Johnson too. I always thought Bush was trying to do the right thing, he just wasn't very bright. And he had some really awful people around him, like Rove and Cheney.

Look at Obama outside of the 30 second news cycle and fake right wing media created storms like the Mosque. He's stopped and turned around the greatest financial meltdown in the last 90 years, he saved the US auto industry and the millions of related jobs. He passed  universal health care, passed the largest financial reform bill in decades, is pulling troops out on schedule in Iraq and taking Afghanistan seriously for the first time since the war started 10 years ago. In the largest oil spill in world history he got the responsible company to pay damages now instead of after years of lawsuits.

He's done a ton, probably more than any president since Roosevelt. Our financial mess was likely worse than the one precipitated the great depression and it was stopped. Many presidents have attempted health care and failed. His numbers are somewhat poor, but they are far better than Bush's were in a decent economy. And any presidents would poll numbers will be down an economy like this, but, it should be noted that it is an economy that has grown consistently during his presidency. Obama's biggest failure is that he has not been able to yet repair all the damage done by Bush. He has had the sharpest, most hateful and most idiotic critics of any president ever in one of the most trying times in our history. Much of the Republican party has completely left honesty and reason behind and is acting like a parade of self serving morons.

The economy is slow to heal and people are impatient. But it will heal, everything is a cycle. The short time before this next election is his short term enemy, and time will be friend in 2012.

You just made my day!

[Gaspar]

I get it Swake, Obama is the greatest person who's ever lived.

LEAVE PRESIDENT OBAMA ALONE!

[swake]

LEAVE PRESIDENT OBAMA ALONE!

Gasper, you know just about as much about politics as you do economics. Please, go try and time the market and again and see how that works out for you. All you do is parrot what ever hysterical crap Fox is pushing and act as if you are thinking for yourself, you aren't, you are  programmed as if you were Glen Beck's voicemail.

[nathanm]

The Obama apologist wagon has rolled into Tulsa, apparently.

Eh, he's correct. You may not like what Obama's doing, but he has gotten a lot done in under two years.

[guido911]

First it was Reid, now it's:

[guido911]

Yeah... just like Ann Coulter said the 9/11 widows were bimbos and gold diggers just trying to make a buck out of the death of their loved ones!  And according to Ann, they couldn't possibly be sincere and honest - just out to make a buck!  But then she has always been of the "forces of light and good", huh?  How about that wow?

A bit O/T, but Ann Coulter is accusing a world net daily editor of being a "publicity whore"?

http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/18/ann-coulter-to-worldnetdaily-editor-hes-a-swine-and-publicity-whore/

lol

[custosnox]

My point was missed. This is not, nor has it been, a religion issue. It's being made so by the left to deflect attention away from the real issue: the insensitivity of those wanting to build the mosque right there to those who suffered on 9/11. Period.

and I supposed that it is insensative for muslims to hold prayer services 80ft from where the plane hit the pentagon as well.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PENTAGON_MUSLIMS?SITE=MAFAL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[nathanm]

and I supposed that it is insensative for muslims to hold prayer services 80ft from where the plane hit the pentagon as well.

The whole "at ground zero" thing is a canard. You can't even see the former WTC site from the former Burlington Coat Factory. Sometimes I wonder if the people frothing at the mouth over this have ever even been to the WTC site, much less New York City.

This is a great quote: "Mr Gingrich's description of the mosque at Cordoba is akin to describing 'the Statue of Liberty as being built by English conquerors in their capital of New York to symbolize their victory over the Dutch.'"

And for a look at what else is so close to ground zero: http://daryllang.com/blog/4421

custosnox: I think it's just great we've got a big pentagon-shaped mosque where our military is headquartered.

[joiei]

A bit O/T, but Ann Coulter is accusing a world net daily editor of being a "publicity whore"?

http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/18/ann-coulter-to-worldnetdaily-editor-hes-a-swine-and-publicity-whore/

lol

Sorry Guido, but Ann Coulter is the Publicity Whore in any equation.   Just my opinion. 

[nathanm]

This fellow gets it.

And finally, let's not lose sight of the foreign policy implications. It's hardly headline news to observe that the United States has an abysmal image in the Arab and Muslim world (for a variety of reasons), but the xenophobic and cynical posturing of the community center's opponents is a free gift to extremists who are eager to portray the United States as inherently hostile to the entire Islamic tradition. The controversy itself has probably taken a toll already; if the critics win, then we should hardly be surprised if moderates elsewhere begin to have even more doubts about America's ability to live up to the principles that we like to boast about to others.

[Gaspar]

Gasper, you know just about as much about politics as you do economics. Please, go try and time the market and again and see how that works out for you. All you do is parrot what ever hysterical crap Fox is pushing and act as if you are thinking for yourself, you aren't, you are  programmed as if you were Glen Beck's voicemail.

Perhaps you are right.  I will rethink my life.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Probably should.  I rethink mine constantly.  It's a good thing.

And it isn't just an opinion that Ann Coulter is a (publicity) whore.  It is a fact!

[guido911]

Sorry Guido, but Ann Coulter is the Publicity Whore in any equation.   Just my opinion. 

Come on joiei, you're aging right before me. That was my point, Coulter has no business calling anyone an attention whore

[we vs us]

Bush isn't the worst person that ever lived. He was just the worst president we have had in the modern era. But he wasn't evil, just incompetent. Nixon was evil. Maybe Johnson too. I always thought Bush was trying to do the right thing, he just wasn't very bright. And he had some really awful people around him, like Rove and Cheney.

Look at Obama outside of the 30 second news cycle and fake right wing media created storms like the Mosque. He's stopped and turned around the greatest financial meltdown in the last 90 years, he saved the US auto industry and the millions of related jobs. He passed  universal health care, passed the largest financial reform bill in decades, is pulling troops out on schedule in Iraq and taking Afghanistan seriously for the first time since the war started 10 years ago. In the largest oil spill in world history he got the responsible company to pay damages now instead of after years of lawsuits.

He's done a ton, probably more than any president since Roosevelt. Our financial mess was likely worse than the one precipitated the great depression and it was stopped. Many presidents have attempted health care and failed. His numbers are somewhat poor, but they are far better than Bush's were in a decent economy. And any presidents would poll numbers will be down an economy like this, but, it should be noted that it is an economy that has grown consistently during his presidency. Obama's biggest failure is that he has not been able to yet repair all the damage done by Bush. He has had the sharpest, most hateful and most idiotic critics of any president ever in one of the most trying times in our history. Much of the Republican party has completely left honesty and reason behind and is acting like a parade of self serving morons.

The economy is slow to heal and people are impatient. But it will heal, everything is a cycle. The short time before this next election is his short term enemy, and time will be friend in 2012.

Well played, swake.  +2.