Ultra Modern Reservoir Hill House For Sale

[rdj]

This isn't my home but I do live around the corner from it.  If you've never seen it is a stunning example of ultra modern architecture in Tulsa.  I'd love someone with a heart for revitalizing this area to buy it.

Not sure if this is the correct board within this forum but thought I'd post here.

http://www.davidclarkdesign.com/house/

[GG]

Nice house.   

[Conan71]

I love that house. Great view. Price?? I can't pull up his web site in my iphone

[Hoss]

I love that house. Great view. Price?? I can't pull up his web site in my iphone

Reason would be because that home page is ENTIRELY Flash.  I HATE websites that don't offer alternative mobile sites when their main page uses ALL Flash.

grrrr.....

I wish Apple would get with the program and start allowing Flash.

[jne]

This is house is amazing!  If I could afford a house in that price range this one would be high on the list.  Answer to flash: Android

[Hoss]

This is house is amazing!  If I could afford a house in that price range this one would be high on the list.  Answer to flash: Android

What's the answer to charging your phone twice a day with Android?  I've also seen the Flash performance on the android.  I'll wait.

Say what you will about Apple and it's restrictive nature regarding the App Store, but that's where I actually like it.  Don't like the idea of some dude in China getting information on my phone via an open-source app that someone loads.

Don't like iTunes, but I do like how they've made it more difficult for developers to get their apps approved by going through a security process.  Open source works only when you have control over the hardware AND the connection.

[nathanm]

I'm going to engage in a little thread drifting here...

If you don't want some dude in China to get all the information on your phone via some program he wrote, I suggest not installing programs written by some dude in China. It's not like there's no cryptographic verification of the program's origin. Also, Apple does not do any sort of in depth code review of things submitted to the App Store. At best they do a cursory check to make sure you're using approved languages and not calling non-public APIs.

It looks good, but in reality it's a complete farce.

[Hoss]

I'm going to engage in a little thread drifting here...

If you don't want some dude in China to get all the information on your phone via some program he wrote, I suggest not installing programs written by some dude in China. It's not like there's no cryptographic verification of the program's origin. Also, Apple does not do any sort of in depth code review of things submitted to the App Store. At best they do a cursory check to make sure you're using approved languages and not calling non-public APIs.

It looks good, but in reality it's a complete farce.

Better than the open source that is Android.  Open source CAN be good.  For the same reasons it's good, it can be a security nightmare.  But that's my opinion.  YMMV.

[AngieB]

Here's the realtor's page for the home: http://my.mcgrawrealtors.com/searchidx/hometour/tour1.asp?mlsnbr=1027245&type=mcgraw#http://www.mcgrawrealtors.com/photo/webphoto_n/2010/9/1027245_1.jpg

It is open today 2 - 4.

[jne]

What's the answer to charging your phone twice a day with Android?  I've also seen the Flash performance on the android.  I'll wait.

Say what you will about Apple and it's restrictive nature regarding the App Store, but that's where I actually like it.  Don't like the idea of some dude in China getting information on my phone via an open-source app that someone loads.

Don't like iTunes, but I do like how they've made it more difficult for developers to get their apps approved by going through a security process.  Open source works only when you have control over the hardware AND the connection.

I don't really have a battery life problem...  Whats your answer to replacing your battery when need be?  FTR - I'm not fanboy/hater or anything.  The flash website works beautifully on my phone (Droid x with Froyo).  Just sayin...

[Hoss]

I don't really have a battery life problem...  Whats your answer to replacing your battery when need be?  FTR - I'm not fanboy/hater or anything.  The flash website works beautifully on my phone (Droid x with Froyo).  Just sayin...

I have two friends at work; both with HTC Evos and these two friends also dumped AT&T to go with the Droid (EVO).  The wish they'd have never done it.  I hear them screaming and yelling about random lockups and having to bring their charger to work with them.

Don't get me wrong.  I was looking at both because my contract with AT&T was up back in July.  But I did about a month's worth of looking at Droid reviews, starting with AT&Ts Sidekick (Motorola phone) and wasn't very impressed with what many people said.  I'm not an Apple fanboy...far from it....and even thought about getting a phone with Windows Mobile on it.  But many people I know have the iPhone, and in the end, the fact it had so many users that were so happy with it, and I was in the window of getting a good deal on one because of the transition from the 3gs to the 4, I ultimately stuck with them.

And if I have to replace the battery?  By that point my contract will be up again and I suspect the iPhone 5 will be out also.

[nathanm]

Better than the open source that is Android.

How is it better to have only one (or two, if you attribute godlike powers to Apple's reviewers) set(s) of eyes looking for security issues than many sets of eyes? Security through obscurity is no security at all. The bigger problem is authentication the provenance of a particular program. Of course, that problem has been solved for many years now, so even that isn't really a problem if the platform isn't completely broken.

[Hoss]

How is it better to have only one (or two, if you attribute godlike powers to Apple's reviewers) set(s) of eyes looking for security issues than many sets of eyes? Security through obscurity is no security at all. The bigger problem is authentication the provenance of a particular program. Of course, that problem has been solved for many years now, so even that isn't really a problem if the platform isn't completely broken.

You missed my point Nathan, as you have a tendency to do on occasion.  I also say later that the beauty of open source can also be it's downfall.  If you have too many sets of eyes that know the architecture of a given OS, then there's that much more chance for someone to hack it or exploit it.  Close the source, and only a few know how it works unless you take the time and pain to reverse-engineer it.

Why do you think most large corporations don't use open source programming?  It can be a security risk.  In the industry I work for, that's a HUGE issue, especially when it comes to EI3PA compliance.

[jne]

I have two friends at work; both with HTC Evos and these two friends also dumped AT&T to go with the Droid (EVO).  The wish they'd have never done it.  I hear them screaming and yelling about random lockups and having to bring their charger to work with them.

Don't get me wrong.  I was looking at both because my contract with AT&T was up back in July.  But I did about a month's worth of looking at Droid reviews, starting with AT&Ts Sidekick (Motorola phone) and wasn't very impressed with what many people said.  I'm not an Apple fanboy...far from it....and even thought about getting a phone with Windows Mobile on it.  But many people I know have the iPhone, and in the end, the fact it had so many users that were so happy with it, and I was in the window of getting a good deal on one because of the transition from the 3gs to the 4, I ultimately stuck with them.

And if I have to replace the battery?  By that point my contract will be up again and I suspect the iPhone 5 will be out also.

The side kick was a short lived android fail.  I considered iphone, until I spent some time playing with an old school droid, then I knew I was likely going with Droid 2 or Dorid X.  Chalk me up on the satisfied customer side.  Leaving AT&T felt great.  I've been with them since they were AT&T, then Cingular, then AT&T again.  Each time there was a change, my bill somehow went up.  I spent countless hours on the phone with them making them attempt to justify my increase and they would, as a consolation, give me various discounts that would expire in 6 months, so I would have to call again and start the process over.  AT&T had great coverage though and I was apprehensive about going to Verizon.  So far, I've been happy with the coverage too.  I have 3g more often than I did with AT&T.  The phone has been great, Swipe has finally gotten me to accept a soft key keyboard and tethering to my laptop for free can't be beat.  I like the iPhones too, but I don't regret choosing the droid for a second.


Security risk eh?  ooo, I'm scared LOL.  Did anybody go look at the house?

[nathanm]

Close the source, and only a few know how it works unless you take the time and pain to reverse-engineer it.

Yeah, that's worked out real well for Microsoft, Cisco, and others. Or Apple, for that matter, who can't seem to shut down the jailbreakers despite the source being closed. As I said, security through obscurity is no security at all. Neither is more or less secure, really.