Krystal Ball

[sgrizzle]

Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't see the connection between these pictures and what O'Donnell has been getting. Christine O'Donnell went on TV and said some really stupid smile and continues to say equally stupid things to this day. She's been called out on her views, not her personal life.

What is more personal than whether she masturbates or dated a Wiccan?

[Cats Cats Cats]

It is not personal when you go on national TV and talk about it yourself.  Who brought this up to the nation?  She did

[nathanm]

What is more personal than whether she masturbates or dated a Wiccan?

She said those things on television. She brought it up.

[Conan71]

I'm assuming the pics of Ms. Ball came from a public medium like FB or MySpace. No different than parading out your stupidity on TV. It's been documented in a very public manner.

[nathanm]

I'm assuming the pics of Ms. Ball came from a public medium like FB or MySpace. No different than parading out your stupidity on TV. It's been documented in a very public manner.

Which is perfectly fine, if that's where they came from. I'm just saying that the situations aren't really comparable. O'Donnell spoke very publicly about the things she's been given smile over.

[Conan71]

Here's the lesson: if you think, say, or do stupid smile: don't record it if you ever plan to run for office

[nathanm]

I think we can all agree on that one.

[sgrizzle]

She said those things on television. She brought it up.

And Krystal Ball likely posted those pictures on the internet.

Compare # of internet users to amount of people who watched politically incorrect a decade ago.

[nathanm]

And Krystal Ball likely posted those pictures on the internet.

You still don't get the difference between a picture of you and your own words? 

[Hoss]

And Krystal Ball likely posted those pictures on the internet.

Compare # of internet users to amount of people who watched politically incorrect a decade ago.

Are you sure Scott?  Do you know within a reasonable certainty that it was her who posted those photos, which, while reading them, were taken in 2002?

Was Facebook around then?  Myspace?  Any of those social websites?  I know Twitter wasn't.

The difference is this:  we know for certain that O'Donnell knew she was on a NATIONALLY TELEVISED TALK SHOW when she said that crazy stuff.  She's sure to have known that when she was in the middle of making her decision to run.  She ran anyway.

Did Krystal Ball know those photos were out there?  Debatable, isn't it?  I know I've found photos of me I've never posted to the internet.  Most of the photos of me on FB are 20+ year old photos of me that I didn't realize people had.

[nathanm]

FWIW, Friendster came into being in 2002, not that I ever used it.

[Gaspar]

Here's the lesson: if you think, say, or do stupid smile: don't record it if you ever plan to run for office

Actually there's an old political saying "Don't write it if you can say it, don't say it if you can imply it."  
I think the problem is that people like Mrs. Ball need to be comfortable with their past enough to just embrace it.

Her official response should have been:
"Hell yeah I went to a costume party, and I looked good!"

[sgrizzle]

Are you sure Scott?  Do you know within a reasonable certainty that it was her who posted those photos, which, while reading them, were taken in 2002?

Was Facebook around then?  Myspace?  Any of those social websites?  I know Twitter wasn't.

Good question considering she won't even say who the photographer was. As mentioned, friendster was around then and people were on it. (Joined in 2003 myself: http://profiles.friendster.com/sgrizzle) And there were tons of ways to embarass yourself on the internet before Facebook (Just like Napster wasn't the beginning of music downloading, it just made it easier for people to do so.)

The difference is this:  we know for certain that O'Donnell knew she was on a NATIONALLY TELEVISED TALK SHOW when she said that crazy stuff.  She's sure to have known that when she was in the middle of making her decision to run.  She ran anyway.

Did Krystal Ball know those photos were out there?  Debatable, isn't it?  I know I've found photos of me I've never posted to the internet.  Most of the photos of me on FB are 20+ year old photos of me that I didn't realize people had.

She didn't make the masturbation comments on a national talk show but rather in an MTV interview and the statements she made are very close to current Christian doctrine (masturbation generally involves lust and lust is bad) and in the Wiccan comment she made it clear she never was a practicing Wiccan but rather that she knew people who were.

Both seem pretty minor compared to posing for pictures while wearing lingerie and fellating a dildo.

[sgrizzle]

Actually there's an old political saying "Don't write it if you can say it, don't say it if you can imply it."  
I think the problem is that people like Mrs. Ball need to be comfortable with their past enough to just embrace it.

Her official response should have been:
"Hell yeah I went to a costume party, and I looked good!"

+1

[Conan71]

Both seem pretty minor compared to posing for pictures while wearing lingerie and fellating a dildo.

Yeah, but she's a Dimocrat, so it's irrelevant anyhow.  She gets a pass on moral turpitude.  And damn she sure looked fine in the commission of said turpitude.