Vote for the 'right candidates' or lose your job

[Ed W]

This is against the law in Ohio:



The McDonalds franchise owner has since apologized for his illegal act.  Gosh, would that work if I were pulled over for speeding?  How about if I shoplifted, robbed or vandalized someone's property?  I'm sure that if I said, "Oh, sorry about that.  It won't happen again." the cops would let me walk away.

Link:
http://bestoftheblogs.com/Home/34064

[RecycleMichael]

Recall Mayor McCheese

[nathanm]

And how about that Hamburglar? He's been on the loose for 30 or 40 years now. You'd think they'd have been able to catch him!

I bet he's good for sales. After all, if your burger gets stolen before you can eat it, you'll have to buy another one.

[guido911]

This is against the law in Ohio:



The McDonalds franchise owner has since apologized for his illegal act.  Gosh, would that work if I were pulled over for speeding?  How about if I shoplifted, robbed or vandalized someone's property?  I'm sure that if I said, "Oh, sorry about that.  It won't happen again." the cops would let me walk away.

Link:
http://bestoftheblogs.com/Home/34064

It's surprising that this sort of smile doesn't occur more often (or we simply just do not know). The article itself was way slanted.

[Ed W]

What part of illegally pressuring employees is slanted?

[guido911]

What part of illegally pressuring employees is slanted?

Come on Ed, how about this? The first paragraph:

Well, no one can say the Republicans aren't trying every dirty trick in their repertoire to try and win the 2010 elections.   All across the country they have been piling lie upon lie as they campaign -- so many lies that I wonder if they even have a concept of what truth is.   In Houston they are putting out misleading political flyers and intimidating voters in minority precincts.

[waterboy]

Check the campaign mailers against democrat Potts for state senate. Even the  republican candidate disavows them. They were printed and mailed by the local Republican committee and include accusations that Potts is pro-abortion, pro-tax and anti-business. Neither candidate has much background to make judgement on. The kid was an assistant to the outgoing Lucky Lamons and has made no such statements or actions to support the lies.

Apparently he is guilty of the sin of ommission not having made overt statements promising to follow what every good little conservative repub in Oklahoma has tattooed on their hiney.

[Conan71]

There's been anecdotal evidence for years in low-income areas where voters are bused er given complimentary rides to the polls it's suggested who and what they vote for.

[Ed W]

Anecdotal evidence is worth the paper it's printed on.  Now, I'll grant that the piece I cited has a left wing bias, but that doesn't change the fact - supported by an actual piece of paper included with the employee's paychecks - that this businessman broke the law in Ohio.  The slant of the article doesn't change that fact. 

[Conan71]

Anecdotal evidence is worth the paper it's printed on.  Now, I'll grant that the piece I cited has a left wing bias, but that doesn't change the fact - supported by an actual piece of paper included with the employee's paychecks - that this businessman broke the law in Ohio.  The slant of the article doesn't change that fact. 

If there were anecdotal evidence Tea Partiers were driving people to polls and suggesting who they should vote for, would you be talking about it?

[Townsend]

If there were anecdotal evidence Tea Partiers were driving people to polls and suggesting who they should vote for, would you be talking about it?

Well hell yeah.  I've never actually met one so I don't even know if a tea partier actually exists.  So an anecdote is just as good as a signed affidavit for me on that issue.

[Ed W]

If there were anecdotal evidence Tea Partiers were driving people to polls and suggesting who they should vote for, would you be talking about it?

I've met Randy Brogdon a few times.  Does he count?  If he made suggestions as to who to vote for, I'd listen politely, then make up my own mind.  But that's considerably different from an employer's heavy handed approach to coercing his employees to make the 'right' choice.  

[guido911]

Now, I'll grant that the piece I cited has a left wing bias, but that doesn't change the fact - supported by an actual piece of paper included with the employee's paychecks - that this businessman broke the law in Ohio.  The slant of the article doesn't change that fact.  

That's why I consider you an honest adversary on issues we find ourselves in opposing views.

[Conan71]

Ed, are you outraged this went against Ohio law?  If no law were broken, would you care as much?  This employer, by far, isn't the only one engaging in electioneering.   Unions publish voting guides for their members. One could safely assume they publish these guides to encourage their members to vote for candidates and initiatives which benefit the union.

[dbacks fan]

While no laws were broken, I had this reminder from the SEIU that I am tentative member of. I got an email from them as to a suggestion as to who I should vote for and if I find it I will share it.




Internet blogs have been popping up since July with false accusations about Mi Familia Vota and SEIU.  Now, FOX News is getting into the act, with more misinformation.  Here's what they're saying...and here's the truth:

Rumor:
SEIU owns and operates Mi Familia Vota to further its political agenda.

Reality:
SEIU does help fund the efforts of Mi Familia Vota and is proud to support this non-partisan organization that is dedicated to increasing participation of eligible Latino voters, who have traditionally been less inclined to vote.  At no time has SEIU asked Mi Familia Vota to support any political agenda.

Rumor:
65 percent of more than 3,000 voter registrations delivered to the Yuma County Recorder's office by Mi Familia Vota are invalid, due to the registrant being a non-citizen, or other reasons.

Reality:Yuma County Recorder Robyn Stallworth Pouquette says the accusations are false.  Mi Familia Vota has turned in 3,000 requests to be on the permanent early voting registration list (not voter registration) for eligible voters in Yuma County. See the article headlined "Election Official:  Claims of Voter Fraud Untrue," published by Yuma Daily Sun on Oct. 25.  

Rumor:Voter fraud is being committed on a massive scale to help Raúl Grijalva keep the Congressional seat he holds by stealing the election.

Reality:Mi Familia Vota is a non-partisan, non-profit organization that does not support any candidate. This is not the first time fringe groups have lied in an attempt to confuse and divide the public on the eve of an election.

However you choose to vote, before you check your ballot, check the facts.
Don Carr
SEIU Arizona
SEIU Arizona


http://seiuaz.seiu.org/page/m/18a1f113/140cae7/5848af11/388a663/2169650875/VEsH/


http://seiuaz.seiu.org/page/m/18a1f113/140cae7/5848af11/388a66c/2169650875/VEsE/

As for the vote suggestion, it was not an email, it was a memo that was sent to members, and I will try and find it and scan it it to share. But it was similar to the McD's message, and it suggested who to vote for, but not vote for these or else, so their "suggestions" are legal, even the OP is legal because it suggests who you might vote for.

Ed, I'm sorry but with what you posted there is nothing illegal about it. What you included as a document from the franchisee is a suggestion, a campaign ad at best, but not a "Vote for these people or you will lose your job threat". I had the same here in AZ, and suggestions from SEIU, but I voted my own thoughts, and my own research on the topics and candidates, and I don't care that I am a member of SEIU, Republican, I voted what I know and feel, not what anyone, (TV/Radio) told me to do.