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Started by Townsend, November 01, 2010, 10:48:32 AM

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Townsend

Be careful of placement of the new Pikepass sticker.

There can be issues with the sticker interfering with Onstar's signal.

In order to move the Pikepass, you have to destroy it and get another to replace it.

Contact Onstar or OK Pikepass for suggestions on where you can stick it.  (smiley winky face)

nathanm

I'm more than mildly annoyed they are completely eliminating the old-style tags. I like being able to put my tag in a rental car or a friend's car when they're driving. Florida's Turnpike Enterprise and OOCEA do it correctly. They essentially give away the stick-on tags ($10 in most stores, and they come with $10 worth of toll credit), but still have the old style tag if you want/need it and are willing to pay more for it. ($40-$50, IIRC)

Do I at least get my deposit back when they swap my old tag out for the new stick on?  :P
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Townsend

I was told by the Pikepass voice on the phone they don't want the old ones back.


nathanm

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Quote from: Townsend on November 01, 2010, 11:19:42 AM
I was told by the Pikepass voice on the phone they don't want the old ones back.

Not yet, but supposedly they're going to be replacing all the old ones over the next couple of years. AFAIK, the stickers are only for new customers/cars at the moment. Either way, the battery will eventually die on my older tags, and since they chose not to distribute the version with the user-replaceable battery, I won't be able to replace it without breaking it. ;)

Now if I could figure out what I did with my SO's old EPass and somehow get them to activate that. EPass, like PikePass uses/used the IT2221 tag, they just bought it with the LED and replaceable battery option rather than the no-LED sealed unit.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Townsend

Quote from: nathanm on November 01, 2010, 11:34:04 AM
Not yet, but supposedly they're going to be replacing all the old ones over the next couple of years.

She actually told me to throw them away or take them to be disposed of.  "We don't want them back."

nathanm

Quote from: Townsend on November 01, 2010, 11:37:21 AM
She actually told me to throw them away or take them to be disposed of.  "We don't want them back."

How unsurprising that they would post misinformation on their website.  :P
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on November 01, 2010, 11:37:21 AM
She actually told me to throw them away or take them to be disposed of.  "We don't want them back."

That's eerily similar to what I said about my ex wife.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on November 01, 2010, 11:51:12 AM
That's eerily similar to what I said about my ex wife.

That ain't similar, that's EXACTLY what I said.

:D

patric

Quote from: Townsend on November 01, 2010, 10:48:32 AM
Be careful of placement of the new Pikepass sticker.

There can be issues with the sticker interfering with Onstar's signal.

Correct me if Im wrong, but the new sticker is just that, a sticker with no RFID that is simply proof that you have a Pikepass account if OHP ever pulls you over.  What they read now is the tag number as you drive through.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Conan71

Quote from: patric on November 01, 2010, 11:58:42 AM
Correct me if Im wrong, but the new sticker is just that, a sticker with no RFID that is simply proof that you have a Pikepass account if OHP ever pulls you over.  What they read now is the tag number as you drive through.

As in the toll tag (Pikepass) or car tag?

If you are claiming it's the license tag, I think you are wrong on that one.  I believe they've still got the capability to take a picture of a car tag if you roll through without a Pikepass, but that is not how they deduct from your account.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: patric on November 01, 2010, 11:58:42 AM
Correct me if Im wrong, but the new sticker is just that, a sticker with no RFID that is simply proof that you have a Pikepass account if OHP ever pulls you over.  What they read now is the tag number as you drive through.

The sticker is a beam-powered RFID tag (with a writable memory area, as I understand it), as opposed to the old battery-powered RFID tags.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Townsend

Quote from: patric on November 01, 2010, 11:58:42 AM
Correct me if Im wrong, but the new sticker is just that, a sticker with no RFID that is simply proof that you have a Pikepass account if OHP ever pulls you over.  What they read now is the tag number as you drive through.

It's not just a sticker.  It's got a chip in it and apparently sends out a signal.

patric

Quote from: Conan71 on November 01, 2010, 12:03:11 PM
As in the toll tag (Pikepass) or car tag?

If you are claiming it's the license tag, I think you are wrong on that one.  I believe they've still got the capability to take a picture of a car tag if you roll through without a Pikepass, but that is not how they deduct from your account.

Im almost certain they deducted from my account when I forgot my Pikepass, by just using Optical Character Recognition of the car tag.  I understand that's how they ultimately plan to do it.

As far as moving the pass from vehicle to vehicle, is there a reason the new stickers cant just be scotch-taped to the windshield instead of using the "permanent" adhesive?
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

sgrizzle

I have had the new stickers on both of my vehicles for a month or so. I hate the placement since they have you mount it at basically dead center of your windshield. It's permanent adhesive so you can't even adjust it if you mess it up. There is a chip in it like mentioned above.

custosnox

so what is to keep you from just tossing the sticker on your dash without removing the backing?  Or sticking it to something that you can toss onto your dash, or stick to the old pike pass velcro?