If you have Onstar and Pikepass

[nathanm]

Thanks. I'm going to have to have a little chat with them about the $25, though. They already charged me a $20(ish) deposit each for the old ones. (in excess of the prepaid toll amount, I mean)

[patric]

Thanks. I'm going to have to have a little chat with them about the $25, though. They already charged me a $20(ish) deposit each for the old ones. (in excess of the prepaid toll amount, I mean)

Please do keep us abreast of the outcome.
The rumor is you arent the only obstinate member of this forum...                             

[sgrizzle]

Thanks. I'm going to have to have a little chat with them about the $25, though. They already charged me a $20(ish) deposit each for the old ones. (in excess of the prepaid toll amount, I mean)

There should never be a deposit for pike pass. You have to give money up front but it goes into your toll account.

[nathanm]

There should never be a deposit for pike pass. You have to give money up front but it goes into your toll account.

This was a long, long time ago. I may misremember. Perhaps the Internet Archive will turn up old versions of the contract.

[patric]

There should never be a deposit for pike pass. You have to give money up front but it goes into your toll account.

I also remember a per-device deposit in addition to the account deposit.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I rented a car a few weeks ago that had the pikepass in a small plastic box carrier that velcroed to the windshield.  There was a lever that the instructions said would "block" the signal - or turn it off - so would not count when went through.  Might be handy if the number of axles you have changes from time to time.  Like pulling a trailer...

[patric]

Old PikePasses to cease working in December; fines to be levied for those still using them

OKLAHOMA CITY - Some holiday travelers on Oklahoma toll roads might be in for an unwelcome surprise, the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority's chairman said Thursday.  Beginning in early December, old PikePasses will no longer function, and motorists who go through turnpike lanes with them will be charged $25 for the violation.

The Oklahoma Turnpike Authority has been trying to contact thousands of customers who are using the older generation of PikePasses to encourage them to switch to the newer generation.  The new sticker devices do not require a battery. The old devices were affixed using Velcro straps. Tolls from motorists with PikePass tags are automatically deducted at a reduced rate from customer accounts when the device passes certain locations.

The comments by authority Chairman Albert C. Kelly Jr. were made Thursday during the authority's regular monthly meeting in Oklahoma City.
The authority has issued four notices to customers, he said. A fifth and final notice is expected to go out about Nov. 5, he said.
The old PikePass tags will cease to work 30 days after the final notices goes out, he said.

Turnpike Authority spokesman Jack Damrill said: "If your license plate is registered with us, you would be charged a cash rate. If your license plate wasn't registered with us, you would end up eventually getting a violation letter from us."

The fine for the violation starting Nov. 1 is $25, he said.  Previously, motorists were charged $25 for the first PikePass offense, $50 for a second and $75 for a third and subsequent offenses, Damrill said. The law was changed to make each violation $25, he said.


So that has me wondering, if they are just reading my tag and billing accordingly, why would I really even need a PikePass, new or old?

[Hoss]

Old PikePasses to cease working in December; fines to be levied for those still using them

OKLAHOMA CITY - Some holiday travelers on Oklahoma toll roads might be in for an unwelcome surprise, the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority's chairman said Thursday.  Beginning in early December, old PikePasses will no longer function, and motorists who go through turnpike lanes with them will be charged $25 for the violation.

The Oklahoma Turnpike Authority has been trying to contact thousands of customers who are using the older generation of PikePasses to encourage them to switch to the newer generation.  The new sticker devices do not require a battery. The old devices were affixed using Velcro straps. Tolls from motorists with PikePass tags are automatically deducted at a reduced rate from customer accounts when the device passes certain locations.

The comments by authority Chairman Albert C. Kelly Jr. were made Thursday during the authority's regular monthly meeting in Oklahoma City.
The authority has issued four notices to customers, he said. A fifth and final notice is expected to go out about Nov. 5, he said.
The old PikePass tags will cease to work 30 days after the final notices goes out, he said.

Turnpike Authority spokesman Jack Damrill said: "If your license plate is registered with us, you would be charged a cash rate. If your license plate wasn't registered with us, you would end up eventually getting a violation letter from us."

The fine for the violation starting Nov. 1 is $25, he said.  Previously, motorists were charged $25 for the first PikePass offense, $50 for a second and $75 for a third and subsequent offenses, Damrill said. The law was changed to make each violation $25, he said.


So that has me wondering, if they are just reading my tag and billing accordingly, why would I really even need a PikePass, new or old?

Cash rate vs discount?  There is a difference and if you use the Pikepass enough, it would make it worth it.

[Red Arrow]

So that has me wondering, if they are just reading my tag and billing accordingly, why would I really even need a PikePass, new or old?

The Pike Pass account is probably the key.  They want your money in advance.  Since Oklahoma only has tags on the back of the car, a trailer could block the tag reader depending on the trailer.

FWIW, a frequent user discount shows up on my monthly statement of Pike Pass usage in addition to the slightly discounted rate.  For me it's usually about $1.50/month.

[patric]

The Pike Pass account is probably the key.  They want your money in advance.  Since Oklahoma only has tags on the back of the car, a trailer could block the tag reader depending on the trailer.

Makes sense.  I dont intend on abandoning my PikePass account, but it's interesting the system can and does work without the stickers.
About the only reason to have the RFID might be to prove to a LEO that at one time you had an account.   

[patric]

Ravine crash illustrates power, limitations of OnStar

After a 28-year-old Campbell woman crashed her Chevrolet Cruze about 500 feet down a mountain this week, she was in bad shape. But the car sprang into action.
Its onboard computer, General Motors' OnStar system, sent detailed information to a company specialist: The sedan had not only wrecked, but had rolled over. The specialist called police in Campbell, letting them know they had an emergency on their hands.
But there was a big problem: The location of the crash, where the woman had been ejected and lay facedown in a ravine, was off by 15 miles.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Wrong-car-crash-location-spurs-OnStar-probe-5825410.php

[heironymouspasparagus]

Ravine crash illustrates power, limitations of OnStar

After a 28-year-old Campbell woman crashed her Chevrolet Cruze about 500 feet down a mountain this week, she was in bad shape. But the car sprang into action.
Its onboard computer, General Motors' OnStar system, sent detailed information to a company specialist: The sedan had not only wrecked, but had rolled over. The specialist called police in Campbell, letting them know they had an emergency on their hands.
But there was a big problem: The location of the crash, where the woman had been ejected and lay facedown in a ravine, was off by 15 miles.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Wrong-car-crash-location-spurs-OnStar-probe-5825410.php

Remember that "Good GM Feelin'"...?

[sauerkraut]

I avoid using the turnpikes as much as I can and use the "free" roads instead... Anyhow there is some good news the state of Oklahoma & Kansas are hammering out a deal so that Oklahoma drivers can use the Pike Pass on Kansas Turnpikes and Kansas drivers can use their turnpike pass on Oklahoma freeways. I don't know if that deal is final yet or not.

[Conan71]

I avoid using the turnpikes as much as I can and use the "free" roads instead... Anyhow there is some good news the state of Oklahoma & Kansas are hammering out a deal so that Oklahoma drivers can use the Pike Pass on Kansas Turnpikes and Kansas drivers can use their turnpike pass on Oklahoma freeways. I don't know if that deal is final yet or not.

If you lived here you would know that already.  Happens Nov. 1. 

What condition would our roads be in if our tax rate in Oklahoma was 0%?  Please answer.

[sauerkraut]

If you lived here you would know that already.  Happens Nov. 1. 

What condition would our roads be in if our tax rate in Oklahoma was 0%?  Please answer.

Roads are paid for by our gasoline taxes not income tax. Texas has NO Income Tax- and Texas has  fine roads. Texas even has no sales tax on food items is it any wonder why Texas is growing so fast. Mary Fallin needs to cut taxes a lot more.