Hoover Neighborhood

[m2violin]

I'm currently negotiating to buy a house just off of 31st & Yale-a few blocks east of Yale.  The house is just a block from Darlington Park (no, it's not one of the Lortondale homes).

What can you tell me about the neighborhood?  Any advice to offer about the neighborhood, businesses, what have you?

[SXSW]

I looked at houses in that area.  Seems fairly nice, close to Southroads/Promenade and still in midtown without 'midtown' prices.  If 36th was more than just a 'bikeway' and had actual bike lanes I would've liked it much better as there would be direct bike access from that neighborhood to Brookside and the river.

[In_Tulsa]

I don't like that neighborhood. My kids go to Hoover and it's not that nice I think the neighborhood is kind of rundown. I am looking at a house in the Midtown Village neighborhood between 41st and 51st west of Sheridan. That seems like a well kept neighborhood with lot's of nice houses. I don't like the apartments but they seem closer to Yale and not part of the neighborhood. But back to the point if you can afford it I would look in this neighborhood.

[nathanm]

A friend of mine used to live a couple of houses down from Darlington Park. It was nice enough. I guess for some people "old" means "run down." I generally think "run down" means "not maintained," which didn't seem to be an issue. The only problem with it, IMO, is that Yale is something of a raceway between the BA and 21st street and the entrances/exits on the BA are a little wonky due to the 21st/Yale intersection, but it's not too bad.

It's not too far from anything, but at the same time it's not close to anything either. Nearly everything you could want is available in a mile's drive. Unfortunately, other than Cloud 9 and the breakfast place across 31st, there's little that's less than a mile's drive.

[SXSW]

I don't like that neighborhood. My kids go to Hoover and it's not that nice I think the neighborhood is kind of rundown. I am looking at a house in the Midtown Village neighborhood between 41st and 51st west of Sheridan. That seems like a well kept neighborhood with lot's of nice houses. I don't like the apartments but they seem closer to Yale and not part of the neighborhood. But back to the point if you can afford it I would look in this neighborhood.

Mid-Town Village is an interesting name for that neighborhood because it's outside the borders of midtown, which is widely accepted as north of I-44.  Many will argue this of course.  I know a guy that lives in that neighborhood.  He says there is a larger Middle Eastern population due to the mosque located at 46th & Irvington.  He hasn't had any crime problems but those apartments closer to Yale are certainly a problem though it does seem to be concentrated in that general vicinity.  Those hotels near I-44 seem to always be robbery targets.

[Smokinokie]

I'm currently negotiating to buy a house just off of 31st & Yale-a few blocks east of Yale.  The house is just a block from Darlington Park (no, it's not one of the Lortondale homes).

What can you tell me about the neighborhood?  Any advice to offer about the neighborhood, businesses, what have you?

I'll make you a good deal on a house in either Catoosa or 31st and Toledo 

[m2violin]

I'll make you a good deal on a house in either Catoosa or 31st and Toledo 

Sorry to disappoint, but as of this morning I'm under contract to buy the house.

[Smokinokie]

Sorry to disappoint, but as of this morning I'm under contract to buy the house.

Congratulations on your future home! I had a house on 24th st. west of Sheridan. I liked the neighborhood very much. Slightly older but well established. Close to just about everything you could want.
I highly suggest Umbertos(sp?) Pizza at 21st and Harvard. Best pizza in town!

[waterboy]

Bought my first house there. Grandview Manor, surrounding the park. Has held up well and is still a great first home area. It appears to be churning however. The farther east you go the shakier it gets. Shopping is really convenient. 21st and Yale on the north and 41st & Yale to the south. Many of those homes were custom built and well crafted.

[Conan71]

M2, welcome to the 'hood.  I live across the street and a few houses over from Waterboy's former home.  I live in one of the mid-century flat-tops and love the neighborhood.  Other than the occasional burglary (like just about any 'hood has) it's a quiet neighborhood and I think is seeing a renaisance as the homes are affordable, well-kept, and younger people are buying in the area and renovating.  I'll drop you a PM, as I'm curious what street you are buying on.

Closer to Sheridan it gets sketchier as I think many of those homes are now rentals.  However, toward the western end of the neighborhood it's mostly older folk approaching retirement or younger families or young singles.  The homes on the streets surrounding the park are mostly all very well kept.

[m2violin]

Thanks for the welcome!  Conan and Waterboy, my house is also in Grandview Manor.  It seems like a well-built vintage home, which was one of the selling points for me.  It also appears homes in the 'hood are generally well kept.  I just had a very nice phone conversation with one of the officers of Hoover Neighbors, and she reiterated what you said about some rough characters in the eastern edge of the neighborhood as you approach Sheridan.  Sounds like I'll have some great neighbors-glad to hear that folks in the neighborhood are vigilant in making sure city code is enforced.

Also found out one of my fellow choir members at church lives in the neighborhood-a young family with two preschool children.  So-sounds like I'm going to be in a good neighborhood.

Thank you all for your help!  Conan and Waterboy, I look forward to meeting you in the 'hood!

[heironymouspasparagus]

I used to live on 28th, just about 7 or 8 houses east of the park.  Long time ago.  Then the area was great.  The houses are generally excellent if they have kept up the maintenance and have good enough "bones" to be worth the effort to rebuild if they haven't been maintained.  Very comfortable houses overall.  Classic example of what how to build a neighborhood rather than the McMansion monsterhoods of today.

Even the flat top houses are nice if they were taken care of.  Even though I have said in the past that I don't like the flat top designs, I think the trend I have seen on some to put a pitched roof on is horrendous!  It literally ruins a perfectly mediocre, but quirky and mildly interesting effect.

[tulsabug]

I live closer to 21st and Sheridan in the Mary Frances subdivision (a few streets south of 21st) and there aren't any crime issues to report. The houses are well-kept, only a few renters actually - less than most neighborhoods. Been there for 13 years in a house that's been in the family since 63. The area gets more shaky near 31st and the apartments over there, but otherwise the early to mid-50s Ranch homes and the flat-tops are all nicely built homes in good neighborhoods.

While some consider 21st and Yale the midtown cutoff, it really is more around the extreme southeast corner near 31st and Sheridan where the home styles become less Ranch and dive straight into 60's anonymity. Of course, anymore the tv stations all claim 71st and Memorial is still midtown...