Less horse poop at downtown parade

[nathanm]

My sister's birthday is December 18th.

A fine day to be born, if I do say so myself!

[guido911]

My sister's birthday is December 18th. When I am shopping for her next week Senator Inhofe would probably insist it be called Christmas shopping. I mean, the stores are all decorated for Christmas, the background music in every store would be Christmas tunes, and it would be hard to find wrapping paper in anything but Christmas patterns.

But it wouldn't be Christmas shopping.

Good grief RM. I get it. You don't like Inhofe. Ponder doesn't like Inhofe. Is this whole thing about the parade just a vehicle so can vent about him some more?

[RecycleMichael]

Inhofe is the one who sent out the press release.

If you want press, it has strings.

[guido911]

Inhofe is the one who sent out the press release.

If you want press, it has strings.

You are right about that.

[Conan71]

You just don't want to respond to my rant.

The parade was started by downtown retailers as a way to get more shoppers downtown. It featured Santa Claus first, way before it was called the Parade of lights. Does that answer your question?

We had Jewish retailers downtown back then, why didn't they have this guy instead?

[Conan71]

Funny thing. . .
I was at my daughter's Kindergarten a few days ago (Jenks) and I noticed that all of the classrooms have event calendars lining the top of the room (laminated strips with the days running across them, and images corresponding to events and holidays).  Hanukkah is depicted with the Torah.  Kwanzaa is highlighted by an African American family lighting candles.  Ramadan, Ashra, Budi, and Diwali are all highlighted with images.

Edit: St. Patrick's day was the only remotely Christian thing on the calendar, and it was signified by a leprechaun.

December 25 was just another number on the calendar.   No Christmas or Easter on any of the Calendars.  Don't really care, but it was a bit strange to me.  These were in all of the classrooms.  They were printed by some public school supply company, so I assume they are standard issue.

You are free to practice any religion you want openly so long as it's not Christianity.  It's the quiet move to slowly push Christianity out as an out-moded religion.

What's that noise?  Oh Hell there's the black helicopters flying over my house again.

FWIW, Given Sen. Inhofe's navigation skills, he might just wind up at the parade.  There's a better chance than not he might mistake the lights of the parade for runway 19R at Riverside and wind up landing in the parade. 

[Hoss]

You are free to practice any religion you want openly so long as it's not Christianity.  It's the quiet move to slowly push Christianity out as an out-moded religion.

What's that noise?  Oh Hell there's the black helicopters flying over my house again.

FWIW, Given Sen. Inhofe's navigation skills, he might just wind up at the parade.  There's a better chance than not he might mistake the lights of the parade for runway 19R at Riverside and wind up landing in the parade. 

He'll hit it on the button as long as yellows 'X's are painted on Boston!

[RecycleMichael]

Was this parade previously called the "Christmas Parade of Lights"?

The Tulsa World had a follow-up story tonight that said the parade was named "PSO Parade of Lights" for the last two decades. So the answer to your question is no.

All those other times that Senator Inhofe rode his horse it was in a parade it did not include the word "Christmas". It sounds to me like the Senator either is ignoring the truth or ignorant of the truth.

[Conan71]

The Tulsa World had a follow-up story tonight that said the parade was named "PSO Parade of Lights" for the last two decades. So the answer to your question is no.

All those other times that Senator Inhofe rode his horse it was in a parade it did not include the word "Christmas". It sounds to me like the Senator either is ignoring the truth or ignorant of the truth.

He's a Senator, he's creates his own reality and only obeys the laws that suit him.  He really pissed me off over his cavalier attitude in violating several FAR's in his airplane that would have landed Hoss or myself in Leavenworth had we exhibited such blatant incompetence behind the stick.  His stance on earmarks has further eroded my esteem for him.  I'm assuming at his age, he's in his last term.  If he tries to run again, I hope there's a good primary opponent.

[Hoss]

He's a Senator, he's creates his own reality and only obeys the laws that suit him.  He really pissed me off over his cavalier attitude in violating several FAR's in his airplane that would have landed Hoss or myself in Leavenworth had we exhibited such blatant incompetence behind the stick.  His stance on earmarks has further eroded my esteem for him.  I'm assuming at his age, he's in his last term.  If he tries to run again, I hope there's a good primary opponent.

And that's what REALLY pisses me off.  If you or I had done that, our PPL would have been revoked at the very least.  He exhibited poor judgement operating an airplane in a condition in which he could have easily killed someone, yet remains very flippant about that fact.

[Conan71]

And that's what REALLY pisses me off.  If you or I had done that, our PPL would have been revoked at the very least.  He exhibited poor judgement operating an airplane in a condition in which he could have easily killed someone, yet remains very flippant about that fact.

It's amazing someone like Bob Hoover spent hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars trying to get his license re-instated, yet the FAA allows someone like Inhofe to continue flying.  I appreciate what a great advocate he's been to GA, but that doesn't exclude him from the same rules every one else is held to.

[DolfanBob]

Fox 23 did the phone in poll last night.
The question was. Should the Parade Downtown be changed to The Holiday Parade ?
96 % said no. 4 % said yes.
Good thing they didnt politicaly vote on it.

[RecycleMichael]

Rick Westcott to vote against special event application

By BRIAN BARBER World Staff Writer
Published: 12/2/2010 

Council Chairman Rick Westcott said Thursday he will vote against the special event application for Tulsa's annual holiday parade at tonight's 6 p.m. meeting unless "Christmas" is restored to its official name. Controversy erupted this week over the name change, which actually occurred two years ago, when U.S. Sen. Jim Inhofe said he would not participate the parade until its name is returned to the Christmas Parade of Lights, rather than the Holiday Parade of Lights.

Westcott told the Tulsa World he had heard from numerous upset constituents on the issue and that voting against the special event application is his way of representing their frustrations. "All of the people who have contacted me are offended by the removal of Christmas from the name, and all of them want it brought back," he said. The application will be voted on by the full council. The Dec. 11 event can't take place without it.

Westcott said he normally wouldn't think councilors should try to dictate to organizers what a particular event should be called. But he said the annual parade is different. "This is something that is central to the beliefs of much of the community," he said. "Because of that, I want to try to have some influence on the situation." In a response to a letter to the editor that appeared in the Tulsa World a year ago, Larry Fox, the parade's board chairman, explained that the word "Christmas'' was deleted from the official name to reflect more accurately its actual theme and an inclusiveness that has always been a part of the parade.

Meanwhile, the council is also scheduled to take action tonight on a vote of no-confidence on City Attorney David Pauling, who just started work Wednesday, and on overturning the mayor's veto on a proposed charter amendment to make the city attorney an elected position.But Westcott said those items might be moved to a special meeting Tuesday because not all councilors are expected to be in attendance at tonight's meeting.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=16&articleid=20101202_11_0_Counci261960&rss_lnk=11

[nathanm]

I thought it was the "PSO Parade of Lights," as the TW article posted earlier reported.

[Townsend]

I thought it was the "PSO Parade of Lights," as the TW article posted earlier reported.

No no no, everything was named after Jesus until Satan took over.

I'm having Jesus cream in my Christ coffee right now.