GOP budget cuts for 2011 could cost up to 1 mil jobs

[rhymnrzn]

"We're broke" 

Should we interpret that as "the covetous are ready to pull the slip out from under everybody"?  It's not a matter of unequal yokes, but equal.  If it was a matter of keeping sheep, oxen, and cattle, and as much increase that would come by that (accounting for feed and keeping the crib clean), and not a matter of pitting one against the other, yet, we are people, though we huddle ourselves after our own manner.

[TeeDub]

His governmental theory is quite a contrast with, say, China, who is absolutely unafraid to use its government coffers to support the private sector with research and infrastructure investment. 

It's gonna be pretty interesting to see who wins the future on those terms.

They can still do that because they don't have the sweeping social programs we do.   When a large percentage of your population is receiving support from an ever decreasing tax base, you start to face some serious issues.  

Why not just keep piling more burdens on the backs of the taxpayers?  

[we vs us]

They can still do that because they don't have the sweeping social programs we do.

Er . . . what?  They were -- and still are, somewhat -- a communist country.  That means sweeping social programs are the centerpiece of governance.

So yeah, they have nationalized healthcare, a pension system, and sundry social security problems.  Interestingly, they have a pension problem that rivals our own (old article but I assume the subject is still pertinent).

[Townsend]

Should we interpret that as "the covetous are ready to pull the slip out from under everybody"?  It's not a matter of unequal yokes, but equal.  If it was a matter of keeping sheep, oxen, and cattle, and as much increase that would come by that (accounting for feed and keeping the crib clean), and not a matter of pitting one against the other, yet, we are people, though we huddle ourselves after our own manner.

How many times did you put that through the interpreter?

[Gaspar]

They can still do that because they don't have the sweeping social programs we do.   When a large percentage of your population is receiving support from an ever decreasing tax base, you start to face some serious issues. 

Why not just keep piling more burdens on the backs of the taxpayers? 

+1

The "they" is not the "they" they think it is.

[heironymouspasparagus]

"They can still do that because they don't have the sweeping social programs we do.   When a large percentage of your population is receiving support from an ever decreasing tax base, you start to face some serious issues. 

Why not just keep piling more burdens on the backs of the taxpayers? 


So all we have to do is make sure that people can make a living wage and all that support issue will go away.  But then, that would mean higher wages, which is anathema to the RWRE.

At one time the approach was;

To Democrats, low wages are the problem
To Republicans, low wages are the solution.

That difference is blurring, but not completely gone.

[Gaspar]

So all we have to do is make sure that people can make a living wage and all that support issue will go away.  But then, that would mean higher wages, which is anathema to the RWRE.

At one time the approach was;

To Democrats, low wages are the problem
To Republicans, low wages are the solution.

That difference is blurring, but not completely gone.

Low wages are important.  A low minimum wage ensures that people continue to improve, educate, and innovate.  It also opens a broader job base to young people and the poor.  Creating a "Living Wage" reduces the overall number of positions available, and makes low-level workers less interested in taking action that will allow them to move up the income ladder. 

Forcing companies to pay higher minimums causes them to work much harder at diminishing the number of entry level workers necessary to operate.  I see this every day.  I sell ERP systems.  Software designed to take advantage of business intelligence and automate many of the systems that used to require employees.  Recession has a similar effect on business as artificially inflated wage limits.  I've made a good deal of money over the last year selling systems that eliminate warehouse, inventory, clerical, and low-level administrative employees.

High minimum wages hurt the young and poor the most.  I have a meeting in 1 hour that will determine the fate of about a dozen minimum wage employees in a St. Louis warehouse.  The cost of benefits, wages and other liabilities for those workers is about to meet the cost of an automated inventory system. 

A rise in minimum wage perhaps to President Obama's proposed $9.50 would certainly make me a wealthier man, but it has a negative affect on the job market.  The secondary affect is that it raises the price of goods and services to meet whatever gap is left.

[guido911]

Scumbag Wisconsin teachers dragging students to be props in their protest.

Abandon your jobs educating children and then turn around and use them. Nice.

O/T a bit. More from the fantastic Wisconsin teachers.

[Conan71]

A rise in minimum wage perhaps to President Obama's proposed $9.50 would certainly make me a wealthier man, but it has a negative affect on the job market.  The secondary affect is that it raises the price of goods and services to meet whatever gap is left.

A rise in wages doesn't cause the price of goods to increase.  Just greedy corporations trying to maintain that evil 8-15% profit margin

[heironymouspasparagus]

You're getting an automated warehouse system for 300 or 400 thousand??  Not much of a system.

Why not just ship all order fulfillment to India or China.  Would only cost about $28,000.

[nathanm]

A rise in minimum wage perhaps to President Obama's proposed $9.50 would certainly make me a wealthier man, but it has a negative affect on the job market.  The secondary affect is that it raises the price of goods and services to meet whatever gap is left.

Once again, common sense is nonsense.

[Gaspar]

You're getting an automated warehouse system for 300 or 400 thousand??  Not much of a system.

Why not just ship all order fulfillment to India or China.  Would only cost about $28,000.

Companies do that too. 

[swake]

The orange one has spoken...

Why didn't he breakout the waterworks over the people losing jobs in this speech?

[Hoss]

Why didn't he breakout the waterworks over the people losing jobs in this speech?

dontcha know because it's those evil gubmint workers!

Wait, doesn't the Tanned One get his paycheck from the Gubmint?

[Townsend]

Wait, doesn't the Tanned One get his paycheck from the Gubmint?

Just some of the over the table stuff