Libya

[Gaspar]

I would think you would praise the President for starting a war that you clearly want.

No. You will attack President Obama no matter what he does.

If he doesn't start a war, you will complain. If he does start a war, he will say he doesn't do it fast enough.

You really need to get some perspective.

I did praise him.  Thousands of Libyan citizens were being murdered every day.  Deaths we could prevent.

Yes, we could have prevented the deaths that that occurred during the time that the UN and others were asking that we intervene.

I appreciate his thoughtfulness, but when lives are at stake, being Hamlet is of little value.

[we vs us]

Not alike. . . Consistent.

It must have been very painful for the President to phone in a decision on Libya, knowing full well that it would have a devastating effect on his popularity within liberal circles.

"Liberal circles?"  If Farrakhan, Michael Moore, and a 100 or so anti-Iraq War demonstrators count in your head as the totality of the "liberal" base, it's no wonder your posts are so wonky.  Obama might be beholden to a lot of different liberal power centers, but those guys really aren't them. 

Rumors of Kucinich getting all fiery on a conference call are about the flimsiest sort of innuendo-reporting there is.  Do Congressfolk have concerns about his constitutional ability to use force?  Sure.  But they ALWAYS have concerns, and have had concerns since the Gulf of Tonkin.  Or even since the sinking of the Maine.  In 1898.  It's one of those permanent, unresolved tensions between the legislative and the executive. 

Does this mean the liberal base is rebelling?  Um, no. 

Again, Gassy, thanks for trying to find the weaknesses in the progressive coalition.  I appreciate your concern that we don't have enough primary choices in 2012, but you're making mountains out of molehills.

[Gaspar]

"Liberal circles?"  If Farrakhan, Michael Moore, and a 100 or so anti-Iraq War demonstrators count in your head as the totality of the "liberal" base, it's no wonder your posts are so wonky.  Obama might be beholden to a lot of different liberal power centers, but those guys really aren't them. 

Rumors of Kucinich getting all fiery on a conference call are about the flimsiest sort of innuendo-reporting there is.  Do Congressfolk have concerns about his constitutional ability to use force?  Sure.  But they ALWAYS have concerns, and have had concerns since the Gulf of Tonkin.  Or even since the sinking of the Maine.  In 1898.  It's one of those permanent, unresolved tensions between the legislative and the executive. 

Does this mean the liberal base is rebelling?  Um, no. 

Again, Gassy, thanks for trying to find the weaknesses in the progressive coalition.  I appreciate your concern that we don't have enough primary choices in 2012, but you're making mountains out of molehills.

Cool!  I am happy to finally see some fracture between the moonbats and the mainstream.  Without these folks to be your flag-barers, progressives/liberals will benefit and add more diversity to the political discussion without so much crazy.

So, lets all happily support the actions of our president, and rally behind the Libyan people as they watch the fall of their dictator and embrace Democracy.

[Townsend]

I think someone's Sheening this morning.

[Gaspar]

I think someone's Sheening this morning.

Starbucks and Tigerblood!

[RecycleMichael]

It really is odd that you write with such glee about President Obama and try to attack all liberals. You must post at least a dozen comments a week railing against democrats.

Gaspar, did you get made fun of by a democrat when you were a child? 

[Teatownclown]

 
Beck Upset Obama Didn't Act On Libya -- Then, 20 Seconds Later, Upset That He Did

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201103180044?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4d868cbff6927910%2C1

"No matter what President Obama does regarding Libya, it seems, ___________ is determined to bash him for it." Insert any number of names, from Beck to Nadir, TeaBaggers to LaRouchies. Doesn't matter what he does, he'll get bashed for it. And if he took a different course, those same people would bash him for that too.
We saw that this week with the Nation scoring Obama for inaction in the beginning of the week, now bashing him for getting US into ANOTHER WAR. The very action that they were howling that he hadn't done.

[guido911]

Cool!  I am happy to finally see some fracture between the moonbats and the mainstream.  Without these folks to be your flag-barers, progressives/liberals will benefit and add more diversity to the political discussion without so much crazy.

It's not just those folks I am smiling at. It's also the lefties in this forum that are scrambling to distance themselves from the "moonbats" gassy. I will have to look back and see this distancing by our forum lefties (in particular wevsus & RM) from Michael Moore when he was out there spewing his moonbattery during the Wisconsin union temper tantrum.

[Gaspar]

It really is odd that you write with such glee about President Obama and try to attack all liberals. You must post at least a dozen comments a week railing against democrats.

Gaspar, did you get made fun of by a democrat when you were a child? 

I don't like the politics of either party.

. . .and yes, both spend their days ridiculing the American People by relying on the stupid, the uninformed and the uninterested to get them in and keep them in power.

[Hoss]

It's not just those folks I am smiling at. It's also the lefties in this forum that are scrambling to distance themselves from the "moonbats" gassy. I will have to look back and see this distancing by our forum lefties (in particular wevsus & RM) from Michael Moore when he was out there spewing his moonbattery during the Wisconsin union temper tantrum.

Not much different than our resident Hannity and Beck (that would be Gweed and Gas) who can find NOTHING that Obama does right.  Well, nearly nothing.

Looks like the TNF is 'fair and balanced' in that respect.

[Gaspar]

Not much different than our resident Hannity and Beck (that would be Gweed and Gas) who can find NOTHING that Obama does right.  Well, nearly nothing.

Looks like the TNF is 'fair and balanced' in that respect.

That's not true, I've complemented the president on several occasions, it's just that most of his policy is awful. 

I don't know if the intent is to keep us in a recessive economic state or if this is still part of some awkwardly executed Cloward-Piven strategy.

Either way, he does not support policies that promote economic liberty.  As long as that is the case, I will find more fault than respect.

[we vs us]

I stand corrected on the whole Kucinich thing.  Looks like he did in fact say Obama's actions were an impeachable offense.  FWIW, I think he's being a moron.  Presidents have had that latitude for generations now.  I'm disappointed that Kucinich is the guy to kick off the patented Democratic Circular Firing Squad (tm).  He's a principled loudmouth but normally pretty savvy about party politics.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51595.html

And PS Guid, I'm not distancing myself from anyone (Moore included).  He's just not the powerbroker you and Gassy give him credit for being.  

[Conan71]

I stand corrected on the whole Kucinich thing.  Looks like he did in fact say Obama's actions were an impeachable offense.  FWIW, I think he's being a moron.  

And PS Guid, I'm not distancing myself from anyone (Moore included).  He's just not the powerbroker you and Gassy give him credit for being.  

You're just now catching the idea Kucinich is a moron?  He's such a moron, he'd make great Vice President material (rim shot).

And someone needs to tell Michael Moron he's not a standard-bearer or power-broker for the left.  He's not figured that out yet.

[Townsend]

That's not true, I've complemented the president on several occasions, it's just that most of his policy is awful. 

It's always like that.  Back handed and insincere.

[Gaspar]

It's always like that.  Back handed and insincere.

meh