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Started by Hoss, March 02, 2011, 02:18:58 PM

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rdj

I saw this little nugget in this morning's Tulsa World story concerning the city council's budget.

QuoteThis budget is by far the largest in Tulsa's history.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=334&articleid=20110623_334_0_hrimgs460349

If this is correct, can someone explain to me how a group of "small government" Republicans are approving the largest budget in history on the heels of a privately funded efficiency study?  Even more so, can you explain how they are doing so when our sales tax revenue numbers are still below what they were pre-recession?
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Townsend

Quote from: rdj on June 23, 2011, 10:15:51 AM

If this is correct, can someone explain to me how a group of "small government" Republicans are approving the largest budget in history on the heels of a privately funded efficiency study?  Even more so, can you explain how they are doing so when our sales tax revenue numbers are still below what they were pre-recession?

Military Spending?

We've been eye balling the area South of Tulsa that Jenks claims as their own.  I believe a few of the councilors see the area as truly Tulsan since they speak the same language.

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on June 23, 2011, 10:04:23 AM
Okay, the current map which is up on the city council web page shows I'm still in D4.  Does anyone know if this is the new alignment or not?  It looks like the one I was familiar with and when I plug in my address, it shows I'm still in D-4 as is all of Lortondale I and Hoover.  It appears the boundary is Maybe Hudson or Joplin on the east.

http://www.tulsacouncil.org/district-finder/map.aspx

Looks like you got moved into D5 as I got moved out of D5 to D3.  Chris Trail will be your current councilor.  I guess Roscoe Turner is now mine, but someone indicated to me at our last lunch he thinks he's not running for another term.

RecycleMichael

Quote from: Townsend on June 23, 2011, 10:24:38 AM
Military Spending?

We've been eye balling the area South of Tulsa that Jenks claims as their own.  I believe a few of the councilors see the area as truly Tulsan since they speak the same language.

Would this be another Trojan War?
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on June 23, 2011, 10:37:32 AM
Looks like you got moved into D5 as I got moved out of D5 to D3.  Chris Trail will be your current councilor.  I guess Roscoe Turner is now mine, but someone indicated to me at our last lunch he thinks he's not running for another term.

Dude, I think Roscoe is hiding his own Easter eggs these days.

I like Chris Trail and know him personally.  I'm disappointed in the change as I truly feel my neighborhood has more in common as far as issues with the rest of mid-town rather than east Tulsa.

Who thinks I should run against Chris just so there's at least some opposition, kind of like Grizzle did in D-8?  If the A-hole he replaced (Martinson) runs again, I'd seriously consider running just to dilute votes for Martinson.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

custosnox

Quote from: Conan71 on June 23, 2011, 12:05:58 PM
Dude, I think Roscoe is hiding his own Easter eggs these days.

I like Chris Trail and know him personally.  I'm disappointed in the change as I truly feel my neighborhood has more in common as far as issues with the rest of mid-town rather than east Tulsa.

Who thinks I should run against Chris just so there's at least some opposition, kind of like Grizzle did in D-8?  If the A-hole he replaced (Martinson) runs again, I'd seriously consider running just to dilute votes for Martinson.
Run anyhow.  I would run myself even though I'm now in Grizz's district but I didn't change my address when I moved back in december.  Kinda messes up the whole "must be registered to vote in the district for 90 days thing".  Which, technically speaking, wouldn't that mean that you couldn't run either since it changed on you?

Conan71

Quote from: custosnox on June 23, 2011, 03:02:33 PM
Run anyhow.  I would run myself even though I'm now in Grizz's district but I didn't change my address when I moved back in december.  Kinda messes up the whole "must be registered to vote in the district for 90 days thing".  Which, technically speaking, wouldn't that mean that you couldn't run either since it changed on you?


Wow.  That's an interesting quandry.  What if the district changed?  You would think there's a provision for the district changing so long as you could prove you've lived in the same home for 90 days or longer.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

From TW:


Council upset over delayed delivery of trash documents to mayor


Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=334&articleid=20111108_334_0_CuclCa276772&rss_lnk=439

QuoteCouncil Chairwoman Maria Barnes claimed Tuesday that the City Council's amended trash regulations were delivered on time to the Mayor's Office last week but that the formal acceptance was purposefully delayed.

This caused the council to miss by one day the time frame for which they could override a presumed mayoral veto of the changes before a majority of the members leave office the first week in December.

Barnes, who declined to reveal her sources during the council's committee meetings, said she has come to "learn what some people are all about."

"When I leave here in a few weeks, I can say my opinion of a lot of people has changed," she said. "I have lost respect for them."

Councilor Roscoe Turner seemed to agree, noting: "The Legal Department works for the mayor. The clerk works for the mayor. This didn't happen as it was directed by the council."

But City Clerk and Finance Director Mike Kier said that, in fact, it did happen as the council officially directed.

Kier showed a video from last week's special meeting during which the trash regulation changes were approved in a 6-2 vote.

During the meeting, Councilor Rick Westcott, who spearheaded the effort, made the motion for approval and included the direction that it be prepared by the Legal Department and delivered to the city clerk and the Mayor's Office before the close of business the next day.

Kier noted Tuesday that no mention was made of same-day delivery.

Councilor Bill Christiansen said Barnes and Council Secretary Dana Burks hand-delivered the documents to the clerk later that day and that they were stamped at 2:17 p.m. with a note asking for rush delivery to the mayor before 5 p.m.

"It troubles me that there were specific directions given to make sure this got delivered to the mayor," Christiansen said. "Evidently that didn't happen."

It was turned over to the mayor Wednesday morning.