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Unions and the Wisconsin Governor

Started by RecycleMichael, March 02, 2011, 04:55:10 PM

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Conan71

Quote from: guido911 on July 18, 2011, 03:27:45 PM
I get bit by some TNFers occasionally because of misunderstood sarcasm. For the record, I think this forum is pretty-well behaved when it comes to race issues.

Speak for yourself, whitey.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

All racism aside  ;D, here is an interesting development:

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

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Quote from: guido911 on July 21, 2011, 05:00:29 PM
All racism aside  ;D, here is an interesting development:
Odd, I can't find support for that at all in the BLS release. California, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Texas all had greater gains in the last month. South Carolina added merely 200 fewer than Wisconsin and even Oklahoma had 2/3rds of their awe inspiring 9,300 job gain in June.

So of all the specifically mentioned states in the press release that had net job gains in June, Wisconsin accounted for 6.6% of the total jobs.

Edited to add: Wisconsinites, don't feel bad! Massachusetts got it wrong, too!

http://www.necn.com/07/21/11/MA-sees-great-June-jobs-growth/landing_newengland.html?blockID=542828&feedID=4206
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

Quote from: guido911 on July 21, 2011, 05:00:29 PM
All racism aside  ;D, here is an interesting development:



. . .and the other half was in Texas!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

heironymouspasparagus

This is just a BS piece for Gov Walker - Spin!!  We have a very noticeable presence in Wis and have been adding thousands for over two years.

Even smaller outfits like Badger Meter (local plant, headquarters in Milwaukee) have been doing well for the last two years, so Walker had NOTHING to do with any of that in the last 6 months.  Nice try, though.  Much like the Murdochian ongoing redirect efforts.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on July 22, 2011, 12:33:29 PM
. . .and the other half was in Texas!
Nope, sorry, California was responsible for 160% of the total jobs added last month. Texas was only responsible for 177% of the total.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on July 22, 2011, 01:19:26 PM
Nope, sorry, California was responsible for 160% of the total jobs added last month. Texas was only responsible for 177% of the total.

Excuse my stupidity, but how can you be responsible for over 100% of a static figure?

:D
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on July 22, 2011, 02:26:27 PM
Excuse my stupidity, but how can you be responsible for over 100% of a static figure?

:D
18,000 net new jobs were created last month. Some people in Wisconsin and Massachusetts didn't understand the meaning of that, hence this thread.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Got it. Wisconsin is doing something wrong which resulted in a net gain of employment. Jeez, the lengths people go though is sometimes just nuts.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Townsend

Quote from: guido911 on July 22, 2011, 03:05:57 PM
Got it. Wisconsin is doing something wrong which resulted in a net gain of employment. Jeez, the lengths people go though is sometimes just nuts.

Jiminy...it gained tourism jobs...just like every June.

Good for it.  Seasonal jobs add to the economy too.  Too bad they don't stick around after September...but hey, they'll have another job spurt next June.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on July 22, 2011, 03:05:57 PM
Got it. Wisconsin is doing something wrong which resulted in a net gain of employment. Jeez, the lengths people go though is sometimes just nuts.
Yep, they sure did get a net gain in employment. Sadly, their unemployment rate is still worse than Oklahoma's and hasn't improved relative to us either.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on July 22, 2011, 03:25:07 PM
Yep, they sure did get a net gain in employment. Sadly, their unemployment rate is still worse than Oklahoma's and hasn't improved relative to us either.

Hmmm, heavily union state.  Nah, couldn't be that...
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on July 22, 2011, 04:07:55 PM
Hmmm, heavily union state.  Nah, couldn't be that...

Probably couldn't get doctor's notes.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on July 22, 2011, 03:25:07 PM
Yep, they sure did get a net gain in employment. Sadly, their unemployment rate is still worse than Oklahoma's and hasn't improved relative to us either.

Didn't anyone read that this time last year the UE rate was 8.3% and this June's job growth was the highest since 2003? Probably not.  ::)
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on July 22, 2011, 04:07:55 PM
Hmmm, heavily union state.  Nah, couldn't be that...
The states with the most improvement in unemployment rate since June 2009:

Nevada, Michigan, Indiana, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Oregon, Ohio, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Wyoming, New Hampshire, Virginia, Florida, and North Dakota, in that order.

In raw numbers of jobs, it's Texas, California, then Ohio (and on down the list).
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln