Traffic Circle at 11th and Elgin

[Hoss]

It was a coincidence. Besides, mine is more descriptive of this town.

Actually, it's more descriptive of you

[Renaissance]

Don't feed the trolls.

[dsjeffries]

Here's the intersection I was talking about yesterday. The sign says you're at the intersection of E. 11th & Carson (which is an impossibility--Carson is W.), when in reality, you're just standing at a curve in 11th St.

[Conan71]

Here's the intersection I was talking about yesterday. The sign says you're at the intersection of E. 11th & Carson (which is an impossibility--Carson is W.), when in reality, you're just standing at a curve in 11th St.

Maybe they ran out of street signs and had this one for a spare and figured no one would notice

How long has it been like that, any idea?

[dsjeffries]

Maybe they ran out of street signs and had this one for a spare and figured no one would notice

How long has it been like that, any idea?

No idea, but probably a while. I figure they meant to put it at W. 11th & Carson and got a) the wrong sign and b) put it in the wrong place. I've yet to check whether 11th & Carson actually says "11th & 11th"  .

Another funny thing about this is that the section labeled "Carson" goes E-W.

Edit: Just checked Google Maps and W. 11th and Carson is labeled correctly.

[DTowner]

Based on the picture of the intersection, I wonder if the circle/roundabout will need additional room - possibly from one of the adjacent parking lots?

[dsjeffries]

Based on the picture of the intersection, I wonder if the circle/roundabout will need additional room - possibly from one of the adjacent parking lots?

I made an overlay of the proposal in pfox's plan and the existing alignment. I have no clue if that's what's actually getting built, but if it is, only one building and part of one parking lot are in danger. (And that, of course, is if only the roundabout is constructed and the additional wedge-shaped block isn't carved out with the proposed new street connecting Detroit and 11th.)

[patric]

Im sure there is a better image, but it's supposedly more like this:

[DTowner]

Im sure there is a better image, but it's supposedly more like this:

That seems pretty tight to me, especially given that both 10th and 11th leading into this are 4 lanes.

[Ibanez]

That seems pretty tight to me, especially given that both 10th and 11th leading into this are 4 lanes.

Should be ok as long as no drunk cheerleaders from Owasso ever drive that way.

[patric]

That seems pretty tight to me, especially given that both 10th and 11th leading into this are 4 lanes.

It's funneled down to two lanes before the roundabout.

[Gonesouth1234]

Should be ok as long as no drunk cheerleaders from Owasso ever drive that way.

+1

[dsjeffries]

Here's a map included in today's Tulsa World story on the roundabout. The article states that the center island will be 110' in diameter.

[Hoss]

Here's a map included in today's Tulsa World story on the roundabout. The article states that the center island will be 110' in diameter.

I live 1/4 mile away from 1 of 2 traffic circles in town (Admiral & Mingo).  If the way people navigate the current ones are any indication, we're in trouble.  People don't seem to understand who has the right of way in a traffic circle.  If you are entering the circle, you yield.  If you are in the circle, you have right of way.  Simple as that.  Don't know why Tulsa drivers don't understand it.

[Townsend]

I live 1/4 mile away from 1 of 2 traffic circles in town (Admiral & Mingo).  If the way people navigate the current ones are any indication, we're in trouble.  People don't seem to understand who has the right of way in a traffic circle.  If you are entering the circle, you yield.  If you are in the circle, you have right of way.  Simple as that.  Don't know why Tulsa drivers don't understand it.

I'll work on that as soon as I get them to understand blinkers, left lane is for passing, and throwing cigarettes out of the window during dry weather causes fires.