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GOP Presidential Hopefuls Blast Sharia Law in Pre-Primary Rhetoric

Started by Townsend, March 29, 2011, 11:28:51 AM

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Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

patric

Quote from: Townsend on March 29, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tim-pawlenty-gop-presidential-hopefuls-blast-sharia-law/story?id=13238930

Oh no's they're not Christian so...The Sharias are coming.  The Sharias are coming...
These freaking guys.

They found out that, at least in states like Oklahoma, the subject brings out the types of voters that would elect the intolerant, and extremists that would have never won otherwise.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

guido911

What a shock, another "let's bash Christians" (and not any other religion) thread from T. I wonder, though, if this was a response to that recent Florida judge using Sharia law.


http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/article1158818.ece
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

custosnox

Quote from: guido911 on April 02, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
What a shock, another "let's bash Christians" (and not any other religion) thread from T. I wonder, though, if this was a response to that recent Florida judge applying Islamic law.http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/article1158818.ece

yet it was a republican judge, go figure.
mobile.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/02/sharia_florida_case

guido911

Quote from: custosnox on April 02, 2011, 09:00:06 PM
yet it was a republican judge, go figure.
mobile.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/02/sharia_florida_case

Good find. Since I have no clue about the facts of this case, I can't even begin to comment on the decision. Still, I do not think the end of our jurisprudence is near.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Quote from: Townsend on March 29, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tim-pawlenty-gop-presidential-hopefuls-blast-sharia-law/story?id=13238930

Oh no's they're not Christian so...The Sharias are coming.  The Sharias are coming...

These freaking guys.

So all Christians, which you plainly infer, are responsible for this. So I guess applying your BS/grade school logic, ALL Muslims are responsible for 9/11, the Cole Bombing, the Khobar towers attack, et. al, is on all Muslims; right? Of course not, because if I made that accusation, I would be called a bigot or a hater.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

ZYX

Quote from: guido911 on April 02, 2011, 11:48:22 PM
So all Christians, which you plainly infer, are responsible for this. So I guess applying your BS/grade school logic, ALL Muslims are responsible for 9/11, the Cole Bombing, the Khobar towers attack, et. al, is on all Muslims; right? Of course not, because if I made that accusation, I would be called a bigot or a hater.

Sorry, but I completely agree with Guido on this point. Christians always seem to be singled out by non-Christians and are often called bigots for saying things just like a previous poster did. I do not agree with the word choice of that particular poster, and I don't think anybody should ever act this way towards another. It sure doesn't seem to speak of the tolerance that many non-Christians claim to have.

Cats Cats Cats

This is more a republican thing than a religious thing.  The mortgage issue is obviously not an attack on America.  The daily show said it best.  The republican base is "God fearing, and Allah terrified".  At the same time there is quote from the link about the misconception about Sharia law.  There is no confusion.  Just a week ago some girl was killed for being raped.  Not raped and killed.  Killed by the "law" for being raped.  The interesting part of this dance is the republican hope to discourage a islam without seeming un-American.

ZYX

Quote from: Trogdor on April 03, 2011, 02:24:01 AM
This is more a republican thing than a religious thing.  The mortgage issue is obviously not an attack on America.  The daily show said it best.  The republican base is "God fearing, and Allah terrified".  At the same time there is quote from the link about the misconception about Sharia law.  There is no confusion.  Just a week ago some girl was killed for being raped.  Not raped and killed.  Killed by the "law" for being raped.  The interesting part of this dance is the republican hope to discourage a islam without seeming un-American.

I wonder when many conservative "Christians" are going to wake up, and see that Muslim and Christianity are very similar. Extremely similar. Most Muslims are not terrorists.

With that said though, there are many times that people of the Islam faith get on my nerves. This usually happens when they protest ANYTHING is brought up in the government that doesn't glorify them. When the government wanted to look at how Al Queida (sp), or maybe it was the Taliban, was endangering our nation, they protested. Why?? Because they said that the government was singling out Muslims. Bullcrap.

But, don't confuse this rant on some Muslims and say that it's the way I think about all Muslims. Every Muslim I have met has been nothing but kind. So the annoying protesters are probably not in the majority of Muslims, and I recognize that. And most things that truly single out Muslims would have me protesting too.

ZYX

Quote from: ZYX on April 03, 2011, 08:55:45 AM
I wonder when many conservative "Christians" are going to wake up, and see that Muslim and Christianity are very similar. Extremely similar. Most Muslims are not terrorists.

With that said though, there are many times that some people of the Islam faith get on my nerves. This usually happens when they protest ANYTHING is brought up in the government that doesn't glorify them. When the government wanted to look at how Al Queida (sp), or maybe it was the Taliban, was endangering our nation, they protested. Why?? Because they said that the government was singling out Muslims. Bullcrap.

But, don't confuse this rant on some Muslims and say that it's the way I think about all Muslims. Every Muslim I have met has been nothing but kind. So the annoying protesters are probably not in the majority of Muslims, and I recognize that. And most things that truly single out Muslims would have me protesting too.

Please notice my correction.

Townsend

Quote from: ZYX on April 03, 2011, 12:04:09 AM
Sorry, but I completely agree with Guido on this point. Christians always seem to be singled out by non-Christians and are often called bigots for saying things just like a previous poster did. I do not agree with the word choice of that particular poster, and I don't think anybody should ever act this way towards another. It sure doesn't seem to speak of the tolerance that many non-Christians claim to have.

That's your prerogative, sure.

Catbox just wants to make this about himself so I'm done with him.

Ed W

As Guido pointed out, there isn't much information regarding the Tampa Bay case.  But if the judge directed the parties to try to find an agreement consistent with Sharia law, an agreement that avoided a state lawsuit, there's no harm done.  That happens all the time.  My union, for instance, has a process that leads to mediation eventually, though nothing precludes a lawsuit if that fails.  So far, mediation has been pretty effective at resolving disputes.

Some sales contracts include a provision about binding arbitration, and hold that out as a requirement to avoid lawsuits.  If you don't agree to arbitration - no sale.  From my point of view, if you purchase a product and it's defective or unsafe, you should always have the option of bringing a suit. 

Granted, in the Tampa Bay issue, this is all hypothetical.   
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Hoss

Quote from: ZYX on April 03, 2011, 09:00:04 AM
Please notice my correction.

And THAT is the whole point.  The generalization of an entire faith.  Both faiths have their extremists.  It just seems that many Christians get caught up in it and many think that ALL are like that.  Did you watch the CNN special last Friday regarding the pushback many Christians gave to Muslims in middle Tennessee about building a Mosque?  That's what I'm talking about.

guido911

Quote from: Trogdor on April 03, 2011, 02:24:01 AM
This is more a republican thing than a religious thing. 

Then make it a "republican thing".
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.