Controlling On Line Dialogue

[Teatownclown]

Wow, rating and commenting on books and films they have not seen?!
Isn't that lying and dishonest? Lying and dishonesty "is how we give our ideas a fighting chance"!

They don't get that having to lie about their ideas is proof that their ideas are stupid and/or insane?
I'd feel sad for them if they were not so destructive!
Stay away Tea Baggers! Lame brains....

[Conan71]

Picking on the amateur night contestants again?

Better than being a sworn lawmaker or appointed DOJ official who hasn't bothered to read the entire contents of a proposed bill before voting on it or becoming an advocate for or against it.  How do some of these people sleep at night?

[guido911]

Just today I was reading an analytical piece on Media Matters. Here is the link and three videos about how that outfit influences (or corrupts) media, with the third video specifically addressing internet searches.

http://patterico.com/2011/03/31/three-short-films-about-media-matters/

[guido911]

Picking on the amateur night contestants again?

Better than being a sworn lawmaker or appointed DOJ official who hasn't bothered to read the entire contents of a proposed bill before voting on it or becoming an advocate for or against it.  How do some of these people sleep at night?

Some sleep very well at night. Take this guy for example.

[Townsend]

I imagine Media matters gets more attention from the Far conservatives than from the Liberal side of things.

Misinformer of the Year

An annual feature on the Media Matters website is the title of "Misinformer of the Year," which is awarded to the journalist, commentator, and/or network which, in the opinion of Media Matters, was responsible for the most numerous and/or grievous factual errors and claims made.[15] They have been awarded almost every year since Media Matters started in 2004.

The recipients of this award have included:
Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly (2004)
MSNBC's Chris Matthews (2005)
American Broadcasting Company (2006)
Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity (2008)
Fox News Channel's Glenn Beck (2009)
Fox News Channel's Sarah Palin (2010)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America

I'd never even heard of them until now.

[guido911]

I imagine Media matters gets more attention from the Far conservatives than from the Liberal side of things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America

I'd never even heard of them until now.

You need to watch the third video at my link. As for Media Matters, I used to participate over there but they are so thoroughly unhinged and manipulative that I quit.

[guido911]

I imagine Media matters gets more attention from the Far conservatives than from the Liberal side of things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America

I'd never even heard of them until now.

Something about MM triggered a memory and I did a little search and found these posts where you and I discussed this website and its content.
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=13299.msg128449#msg128449

[Cats Cats Cats]

You need to watch the third video at my link. As for Media Matters, I used to participate over there but they are so thoroughly unhinged and manipulative that I quit.

Hahhaha.  The third video?  You mean they hacked the google search algorithm that nobody knows what goes into it.  That is the first clue this guy is full of crap.  But I am sure being a liberal site that *gasp* they have negative stories on right wingers.

[guido911]

Hahhaha.  The third video?  You mean they hacked the google search algorithm that nobody knows what goes into it.  That is the first clue this guy is full of crap.  But I am sure being a liberal site that *gasp* they have negative stories on right wingers.

I watched the video again and I nothing about hacked google algorithms. Where did you hear that? I thought he was talking about SEOs. I looked that up after I heard this video to get some background on SEOs. Here's one link I found, and this quote:

Believe it or not, basic SEO is all about common sense and simplicity. The purpose of search engine optimization is to make a website as search engine friendly as possible. It's really not that difficult. SEO 101 doesn't require specialized knowledge of algorithms, programming or taxonomy but it does require a basic understanding of how search engines work.

[Emphasis added]

http://www.searchengineguide.com/jim-hedger/seo-101-basic.php

[Townsend]

Something about MM triggered a memory and I did a little search and found these posts where you and I discussed this website and its content.
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=13299.msg128449#msg128449

My mistake for not remembering. 

I still think, though, the conservatives are probably more concerned about this site than their assumed audience.

[Cats Cats Cats]

I watched the video again and I nothing about hacked google algorithms. Where did you hear that? I thought he was talking about SEOs. I looked that up after I heard this video to get some background on SEOs. Here's one link I found, and this quote:
[Emphasis added]

http://www.searchengineguide.com/jim-hedger/seo-101-basic.php

http://www.forbes.com/2007/04/29/sanar-google-skyfacet-tech-cx_ag_0430googhell.html

Everybody uses SEO. There is no reason why every site can do the same thing. Nobody knows what really does what when it comes to SEO.  Because it's ranked by an algorithm that nobody knows.  To say a site is purposefully get to the front page of a google search is completely obvious.  To act like it's a conspiracy is beyond stupid.

[guido911]

http://www.forbes.com/2007/04/29/sanar-google-skyfacet-tech-cx_ag_0430googhell.html

Everybody uses SEO. There is no reason why every site can do the same thing. Nobody knows what really does what when it comes to SEO.  Because it's ranked by an algorithm that nobody knows.  To say a site is purposefully get to the front page of a google search is completely obvious.  To act like it's a conspiracy is beyond stupid.

Sorry bub, you do not get off that easy. You accused Stranahan of being "full of crap" and you accused him of suggesting that MM was hacking google algorithms BS in order to discredit him. This is your back pedaling moment. And tell me about this alleged conspiracy in video 3.

[Cats Cats Cats]

Sorry bub, you do not get off that easy. You accused Stranahan of being "full of crap" and you accused him of suggesting that MM was hacking google algorithms BS in order to discredit him. This is your back pedaling moment. And tell me about this alleged conspiracy in video 3.

2:09 "Media matters has made it so that shows up very high on the page ranking"

That implies that they know specifically how to game the google page rank system.  Ohhh they use Search engine optimization.  Internet magic that only one site can use. They would have to know more than all of the other websites in the world (with that keyword). 

[guido911]

2:09 "Media matters has made it so that shows up very high on the page ranking"

That implies that they know specifically how to game the google page rank system.  Ohhh they use Search engine optimization.  Internet magic that only one site can use. They would have to know more than all of the other websites in the world (with that keyword). 

Oh I get it. MM conspired with itself in trashing Stranahan. Interesting that it wasn't that "full of crap" author you started off with. And it wasn't just google if you listened to the original video. But please, keep doubling down.

Sometimes a healthy, "you know, I f'd up" is a good thing.

[Cats Cats Cats]

Oh I get it. MM conspired with itself in trashing Stranahan. Interesting that it wasn't that "full of crap" author you started off with. And it wasn't just google if you listened to the original video. But please, keep doubling down.

Sometimes a healthy, "you know, I f'd up" is a good thing.

Google,web crawler,altavista, yahoo,bing,ask Jeeves, wolfram alpha, AOL.  Doesn't matter which search engine.

Is media matters running negative stories about right wing figures?  Yes.  I said that already.  Right wing sites do the same thing.  Do political sites use statements literally or change them to suit their needs?  Yes .  Is media matters a news site?  No, it's a left wing editorial site. Your only new information you produced was that media matters has special page ranking powers unknown to all other sites on all search engines.  If you had even a remote idea of what you were talking about.  The story would be that search engines are giving them preferred page ranking based on their ideology.  They are FORTUNATE enough to have a high page ranking.  They didn't "make" it that way.  The search algorithms did, which nobody knows what exactly goes into it.