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Started by Teatownclown, March 30, 2011, 07:27:38 PM

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nathanm

I definitely preferred early Media Matters, before it got so editorial. In the beginning, it seemed to be more of a dry recitation of the falsehoods politicians and media figures were promoting or allowing to be promoted without question, as the case may have been. That was actually quite useful. An important civic service, IMO.

Public figures deserve to be called out when they say something that isn't true. Sometimes it may have been that they misspoke, but an organization like Media Matters makes it easy to point to a pattern of being untruthful if said public figure is indeed regularly untruthful.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: Trogdor on March 31, 2011, 11:28:49 PM

Google,web crawler,altavista, yahoo,bing,ask Jeeves, wolfram alpha, AOL.  Doesn't matter which search engine.

Is media matters running negative stories about right wing figures?  Yes.  I said that already.  Right wing sites do the same thing.  Do political sites use statements literally or change them to suit their needs?  Yes .  Is media matters a news site?  No, it's a left wing editorial site. Your only new information you produced was that media matters has special page ranking powers unknown to all other sites on all search engines.  If you had even a remote idea of what you were talking about.  The story would be that search engines are giving them preferred page ranking based on their ideology.  They are FORTUNATE enough to have a high page ranking.  They didn't "make" it that way.  The search algorithms did, which nobody knows what exactly goes into it.

Whatever.  ::) The movie guy is full of crap.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Cats Cats Cats

Exactly.  Did you not notice he tries tie abortion with the funds they receive?  Which would be illegal?  Or the fact he says that the head of Planned Parenthood is wrong because she somehow claimed that ALL locations did mammograms?  Obviously a non-smear site would note the fact that they do pap smears (which also scans for cancer).  Or the fact that normally you don't get doctors referrals from doctors you don't pay.  Though they could go to other free clinics which would also be defunded as a result of their attempts to take down planned parenthood.  So yeah.  He was completely biased.  Unfortunately I don't know a site that offers an actual fair analysis.  I do know that wouldn't be a site you would go to.

guido911

Quote from: Trogdor on April 01, 2011, 11:26:18 AM
Exactly.  Did you not notice he tries tie abortion with the funds they receive?  Which would be illegal?  Or the fact he says that the head of Planned Parenthood is wrong because she somehow claimed that ALL locations did mammograms?  Obviously a non-smear site would note the fact that they do pap smears (which also scans for cancer).  Or the fact that normally you don't get doctors referrals from doctors you don't pay.  Though they could go to other free clinics which would also be defunded as a result of their attempts to take down planned parenthood.  So yeah.  He was completely biased.  Unfortunately I don't know a site that offers an actual fair analysis.  I do know that wouldn't be a site you would go to.

You read WAY more into those videos than I did. This guy was reporting on another person's charge re: Planned Parenthood and MM response. He also reported on MM's response to Fox's Bill Sammon. Call him biased if you like, but your position from he's full of crap has certainly been back pedaled.

Also, did you read my link on SEOs? If you did, and MM is using these very simple and lawful means to get more hits, is he still full of crap for pointing this out?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Cats Cats Cats

Quote from: guido911 on April 01, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
You read WAY more into those videos than I did. This guy was reporting on another person's charge re: Planned Parenthood and MM response. He also reported on MM's response to Fox's Bill Sammon. Call him biased if you like, but your position from he's full of crap has certainly been back pedaled.

Also, did you read my link on SEOs? If you did, and MM is using these very simple and lawful means to get more hits, is he still full of crap for pointing this out?

SEOs are a pseudoscience.  People have ideas of what works but nobody really knows.  I think what MM has is original content that is repeated on multiple sites.

Teatownclown


Arianna: The Huffington Post is not a 'lefty' publication anymore

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/01/arianna-huffington-post-is-not-a-lefty-publication/

No sh!t Sherlock....pissing and moaning about scripted issues makes real change possible. This is Ariana going back to her roots. Remember when Franken found her she was a reich wingnut. :)