Stormgasms

[Hoss]

I did not know that. I'm a big supporter of both Fallin & Palin, I think either one would make a good president of the USA. I also like the governer of Arizona who's name escapes me. I would not mind seeing a Palin/Trump ticket.

Neither would I, non-res.  That would nearly guarantee that they lose.  And it takes two goofballs out of contention.

Oh, wait a minute, isn't this thread about storms?

Atlas IPA!  There!  Saved it...

[dbacks fan]

I did not know that. I'm a big supporter of both Fallin & Palin, I think either one would make a good president of the USA. I also like the governer of Arizona who's name escapes me. I would not mind seeing a Palin/Trump ticket.

[guido911]

His mind has been bought and paid for Koch Oil and Newscorp.

Oh good grief. You are not going full heiron or aox on us are you? Seriously, two posts in one day about the Koch brothers?

[swake]

Oh good grief. You are not going full heiron or aox on us are you? Seriously, two posts in one day about the Koch brothers?

My point here is related to the other post. He is a great example of the Tea Party type I was talking about.

Saur is a part of that 50% plus of Republicans that are birthers and believe whatever pablum is put in front of them using right wing buzz words and wedge issues. Almost worse than being a birther (and I know you aren't one) he actually is buying Donald Trumps line of crap. It's amazing how gullible he and most people in the Tea Party are.

So. My question is this. He's your base, do you claim him as a rational and informed part of the right wing?

[guido911]

My point here is related to the other post. He is a great example of the Tea Party type I was talking about.

Saur is a part of that 50% plus of Republicans that are birthers and believe whatever pablum is put in front of them using right wing buzz words and wedge issues. Almost worse than being a birther (and I know you aren't one) he actually is buying Donald Trumps line of crap. It's amazing how gullible he and most people in the Tea Party are.

So. My question is this. He's your base, do you claim him as a rational and informed part of the right wing?

Rational? I can't say. But as you know every group has its fringe elements and he very well could be part of that. I haven't thought about this guy for a long time.

[dbacks fan]

So. My question is this. He's your base, do you claim him as a rational and informed part of the right wing?

Saur? I don't think he's even part of this planet.

[swake]

Rational? I can't say. But as you know every group has its fringe elements and he very well could be part of that. I haven't thought about this guy for a long time.

It's not fringe thinking when most Republicans are birthers. This is mainstream stupidity. Fringe was the 5% of Democrats that were Truthers.

[Teatownclown]

It's not fringe thinking when most Republicans are birthers. This is mainstream stupidity racism. Fringe was the 5% of Democrats that were Truthers.

Being a truther, I fixed this.

[guido911]

It's not fringe thinking when most Republicans are birthers. This is mainstream stupidity. Fringe was the 5% of Democrats that were Truthers.

You are jumping around a bit. Are we now talking about Repubs or tea partiers now?

[guido911]

Back o/t. South Tulsa/Bixby got fairly hammered with this storm. Got some nice size hail too.

[Conan71]

Well-placed kitteh facepalm.

[guido911]

It's not fringe thinking when most Republicans are birthers. This is mainstream stupidity. Fringe was the 5% of Democrats that were Truthers.

Let's talk about this. First, do you recall where this whole "birthism" began?

If you haven't been trolling the fever swamps of online conspiracy sites or opening those emails from Uncle Larry, you may well wonder: Where did this idea come from? Who started it? And is there a grain of truth there?


The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.

The theory's proponents are a mix of hucksters and earnest conspiracy theorists, including prominently a lawyer who previously devoted himself to 'proving' that the Sept. 11 attacks were an inside job. Its believers are primarily people predisposed to dislike Obama. That willingness to believe the worst about officials of the opposite party is a common feature of presidential rumor-mongering: In 2006, an Ohio University/Scripps Howard poll found that slightly more than half of Democrats said they suspected the Bush Administration of complicity in the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html#ixzz1KIlWT667

[Emphasis added].

Well well, I hadn't remembered that it was the Hillary dems that trotted out the birther issue. Interesting that it was not the tea partiers (which as I pointed out in another thread did not come to be until about a year later). Also, you see that in 2006, five years after 9/11, still more than half of dems were truthers. Sounds more mainstream than fringe to me. Interestingly, that percentage was somewhat affirmed the following year in a different poll (and I still hate polls btw):

Twenty-eight percent of Republicans believe President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, and 30 percent are "not sure," according to this poll.

But before liberals begin to smirk, here's a poll from 2007, in which 35 percent of Democrats said that President Bush knew in advance about the 9/11 attacks, and 26 percent were not sure.

So if 58 percent of Republicans are living in a delusional fantasy world because they are out of power, then 61 percent of Democrats were doing the same thing until just recently (perhaps they still are). It's a clean, apples-to-apples comparison with a clear lesson: People get a bit kooky when they're out of power, Democrats about 3 points kookier -- which is probably within the margin of error.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2009/07/birthers-why-didnt-truthers-get-all-attention#ixzz1KImnw400

[Emphasis added].
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2009/07/birthers-why-didnt-truthers-get-all-attention

[sauerkraut]

Now floods are the talk. Floods do more damage than a drought can ever do. So far the flood death count is 7 people, the flooding is worse to the east of Tulsa. Julia Chinn said that tonite more storms are coming in.

[heironymouspasparagus]

swake,
Don't forget that a full 48% of the voters elected W the first time.  Plus 5.

So when talking fringe, you are talking 48%.  Now, THAT is beyond scary!!

[guido911]

swake,
Don't forget that a full 48% of the voters elected W the first time.  Plus 5.

So when talking fringe, you are talking 48%.  Now, THAT is beyond scary!!

And BJ Clinton won in 1992 with 43%. So what?