The Holly Refinery is on fire..................Happy Earth Day!

[Conan71]

Don't want to be killed by someone else?

Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner!

[patric]

I don't know where you got that information. The Holly refinery does indeed make low RVP gas that is sold in Tulsa.

Got my information here:

"Our local regulators have entered into an agreement with EPA so that a special gasoline with 8.2 Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) is sold in Tulsa county during summer months. Tulsa is the only area in the nation where this particular gasoline is sold. As a result, no refiner manufactures it, but rather two different gasolines are mixed together to meet the 8.2 specification. Most of these two kinds of gasoline come from refineries on the Gulf Coast and are transported by pipeline to Tulsa. That was not a problem in 1999. Unfortunately, since last year, 98 counties in East Texas that are along the pipeline that connects Tulsa to the Gulf Coast refineries now require one of the gasolines that is blended to make Tulsa's fuel. That increased demand from motorists in the Texas counties caused an increase in the price of gasoline in our Tulsa market when the summer driving season began. Once again, this is a simple case of the relationship of supply, demand and price."
Written Statement of James McCarthy
General Manager, CITGO Petroleum Corporation
Before the Senate Agriculture Committee
July 20, 2000  
http://agriculture.senate.gov/Hearings/Hearings_2000/July_20__2000/00720mcc.htm

[Conan71]

That info is 12 years old. 

[patric]

That info is 12 years old. 

So you have a more current citation?

[RecycleMichael]

You quoted a spokesperson for a different company saying something twelve years ago.

2000 was the year that refineries and local suppliers all started producing and selling lower RVP in Tulsa. It is an annual voluntary compact offered by INCOG. They know all do it. The refineries around here start producing the better gas around April and it causes a spike in retail price. They are done with the production by June and the prices begin to drop through June.

I meet with refinery officials at least six times a year.

[Townsend]

I meet with refinery officials at least six times a year.

Any chance you could ask them to pretty the refineries up a bit?

[patric]

The refineries around here start producing the better gas around April and it causes a spike in retail price. They are done with the production by June and the prices begin to drop through June.

Thanks for the update.
So if local low RVP gasoline production for the summer is done, how are they justifying the fire causing a spike in price now?

[Teatownclown]

I meet with refinery officials at least six times a year.

do you wear your straight face?

[RecycleMichael]

I am tired of your insults clown. You are not worthy.

[Conan71]

Thanks for the update.
So if local low RVP gasoline production for the summer is done, how are they justifying the fire causing a spike in price now?

Because Chet woke up, heard the news on KRMG, and decided it was worth a dime gallon to QT.

[Teatownclown]

I am tired of your insults clown. You are not worthy.

lol... Dana Carvey just might agree, Garthycle.

[Teatownclown]

Hey....it's 4:20 (close enough) Saturday and the sky is yellow and gray flakes are falling from the sky. A gal pal just called in Utica Square worried. I told her it was the rapture and to head on over to my place for cover. Despite being an atheist, being a member of the chosen people I told her she could seek sanctuary here. Oh, bring bud, I told her....!

[patric]

Hey....it's 4:20 (close enough) Saturday and the sky is yellow and gray flakes are falling from the sky.

Ash is falling from the sky in midtown, too damn small to get pictures.

[Hoss]

Ash is falling from the sky in midtown, too damn small to get pictures.

I got some out east, pick a pinky-nail sized floater out of the air into my hand.



one of my good friends is a dispatcher for the town of Mannford.  He lives about three miles south of 51 just off of 48 and he doesn't even know if he has a house because he hasn't been home since 7pm last night.

[patric]

I got some out east, pick a pinky-nail sized floater out of the air into my hand.
one of my good friends is a dispatcher for the town of Mannford.  He lives about three miles south of 51 just off of 48 and he doesn't even know if he has a house because he hasn't been home since 7pm last night.

Twitter says all of Mannford evacuated; shelters moved to Sand Springs.