Did Sally Kern Really Say That?

[Gaspar]

Conan, every time you try that method of cya, it just makes a darker image of you.

That sounds raciest.  I think?

[Conan71]

Conan, every time you try that method of cya, it just makes a darker image of you.

That's a racial slur.  I want you to resign right now!

Let me aks you this: If there were a NAAWP, white officer's coalition, white congressional caucus, white student association, etc. ad nauseum would your first reaction be that this was a separatist, racist group?  Why not the same reaction when it comes to black groups like this?

I'm all about racial equality.  The NAACP is about racial superiority and racial inferiority.  Black caucuses, black professional coalitions, and the like exist to illustrate, highlight, and focus on our differences.  So long as there are foundations which exist to keep agitating the racial divide there will be one.  I for one would hope Sally Kern would realize what an embarrassment she is to the state and step down.  In absence of that, her constituents can make a value judgement if her apparent homophobia and blunt feelings on race and gender outweigh her usefulness as a legislator.  I'm sure the editors at Kos and HuffPo would love for her to hang around she's great for page hits.

Instead of focusing on our differences, we should be focusing on our similarities.  Let's start with one simple idea- we all belong to the same race:  The human race.

[Gaspar]

I'm not white.  I'm kinda pinkish-beige.

[RecycleMichael]

Instead of focusing on our differences, we should be focusing on our similarities.  Let's start with one simple idea- we all belong to the same race:  The human race.

You mortals crack me up.

[nathanm]

I'm all about racial equality.  The NAACP is about racial superiority and racial inferiority.  Black caucuses, black professional coalitions, and the like exist to illustrate, highlight, and focus on our differences.  So long as there are foundations which exist to keep agitating the racial divide there will be one. 
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Instead of focusing on our differences, we should be focusing on our similarities.  Let's start with one simple idea- we all belong to the same race:  The human race.

This is white privilege talking. Does it bother you that there are groups to advance the cause of women's rights? How about organizations advocating for the disabled?

I've written several times here about how policies that are not racist in intent can in fact end up being de facto racist. This helps to perpetuate the subjugation of black people. Racism is now (aside from a few glaring examples) no longer individual, but institutional. We've come quite a long way even in the last 20 years. It seems a great shame to stop now.

[dbacks fan]

http://www.hulu.com/watch/1510/saturday-night-live-weekend-update-with-emily-latella-editorial

[Conan71]

This is white privilege talking. Does it bother you that there are groups to advance the cause of women's rights? How about organizations advocating for the disabled?

I've written several times here about how policies that are not racist in intent can in fact end up being de facto racist. This helps to perpetuate the subjugation of black people. Racism is now (aside from a few glaring examples) no longer individual, but institutional. We've come quite a long way even in the last 20 years. It seems a great shame to stop now.

White privilege my donkey.  Nothing I've earned is a result of me being white.

Most of the wrongs of the pre CRA era 45 years ago have been fixed in case you haven't noticed.  Sure there are morons still walking around spouting the N word and other epithets on a daily basis and occasional "hate" crimes.

Show me how minorities and women are still being held down other than ones who are prisoners to their own lame thinking and race-baiters telling them it's so.  

We have a black man as POTUS, females in very high positions of authority throughout his admin as well throughout our legislative and judicial systems all over the country.  Minorities of all backgrounds and both sexes are governors, legislators, CEO's of major corporations, as well as important researchers, doctors, scientists, writers, TV personalities, etc.

Has all that happened through black privilege or female privilege or Hispanic privilege?

I'll take equal treatment over special treatment any day.  It lets me know I'm a product of my own efforts and that I'm not taking something I don't deserve by my own merit or haven't earned.

[RecycleMichael]

State Representative Sally Kern is helping the image of other politicians in the same way that Mike Tyson helped the image of other boxers.

A boxer could say, "Yes, my job is to hit a man with a series of punches to his brain until he falls over in a concussion, but at least I don't bite them."

Now politicians can all say, "Yes, my job is to vote on behalf of special interests every time and ignore you like I am brain dead, but at least I don't make racist and sexist remarks."

[Conan71]

State Representative Sally Kern is helping the image of other politicians in the same way that Mike Tyson helped the image of other boxers.

A boxer could say, "Yes, my job is to hit a man with a series of punches to his brain until he falls over in a concussion, but at least I don't bite them."

Now politicians can all say, "Yes, my job is to vote on behalf of special interests every time and ignore you like I am brain dead, but at least I don't make racist and sexist remarks."

You know why Mike Tyson's eyes water during sex?

Pepper spray.

[Red Arrow]

http://www.hulu.com/watch/1510/saturday-night-live-weekend-update-with-emily-latella-editorial

Gilda Radnor was great.

[nathanm]

White privilege my donkey.  Nothing I've earned is a result of me being white.

That you think that is a result of your being white (and male). There were some free black men while slavery was enforced. There were some rich black men during Jim Crow.

You aren't confronted with the continuing institutional racism (and sexism) many women and minorities deal with on a daily basis, so you don't see it. There was a time when I argued with people about things they personally experienced: "no, surely that happened for some other reason..." Eventually, I realized what an donkey I was being.

Statistics show very clearly that there is a significant racial bias in both income and wealth in this country, even when controlled for factors other than race. I think you're right that there's little overt racism these days. As I said before, it's not necessarily intentional, but it's there. Think cops arresting black people more often for drug offenses despite them being less likely to be carrying drugs simply because cops patrol black neighborhoods more.

Yeah, there are people shouting racism where it doesn't really exist (like the very few morons who claim that all opposition to Obama is racist). Similarly, there are white people who claim that racism simply doesn't exist anymore, or Tea Partiers who claim the government is out to get them, or truthers who claim that Bush was complicit in 9/11. That there is a fringe that takes an issue to an extreme does not mean that there is zero truth to the claims of the larger group.

There is undoubtedly racism, even if it doesn't usually involve the N word or cross burning. There are ways in which the government is inefficient and needs reform, though not dismantled entirely, and Bush was a shitty President by most standards, even if he didn't orchestrate a terrorist attack. Using the standard by which you judge racism, the government is an entity of unparalleled efficiency and integrity and Bush was in fact an excellent President.

[guido911]

Here is the clip. Her part begins at about 1:16:00 and the statement at issue is at about 1:20:00.

http://www1.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20110428_11_0_hWatch253294

[Teatownclown]

Here is the clip. Her part begins at about 1:16:00 and the statement at issue is at about 1:20:00.

http://www1.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20110428_11_0_hWatch253294

You appear to be standing up for her. Define "at issue."

[guido911]

You appear to be standing up for her. Define "at issue."

You appear to be a presumptuous fool. Watch her part in the clip and listen to what she says. That's all.

[Teatownclown]

You appear to be a presumptuous fool. Watch her part in the clip and listen to what she says. That's all.

I did...and I stand by my previous observation about your post.